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I'll start out with a question that'll get me laughed at:

How do the hosts have weapons that can kill guests?

They explained it in a throw-away line last night with Bernard and Charlotte (and that small group) hiding in the barn: Bernard said Ford must have changed the weapons systems to fire live rounds as well as change the programming of the hosts.
 

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They explained it in a throw-away line last night with Bernard and Charlotte (and that small group) hiding in the barn: Ford must have changed the weapons systems to fire live rounds as well as change the programming of the hosts.


So truly a "deeper game", huh?
 

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I didn’t realize how much I missed this show until I watched the season two premiere last night. It has such a unique feel to it: mysterious, threatening, foreboding.

With the knowledge that there are a multitude of themed parks in addition to West World, the writers have set themselves up to do anything they can think of, which should provide for some truly unique character motivations and plot lines, all leaning towards the ultimate premise, the hosts becoming the dominant “species”.

The style of edit, using jumps in time, I wonder if we are hearing the whole, “robots take over the world”, end-game after it’s already happened. As if the last humans left on Earth (or whatever planet they’re on) jacket into a host to see how this whole robot revolution even happened.

With no Game of Thrones, and the Walking Dead in the toilet, it’s nice to have a solid, well acted, umprredictable show to watch on Sunday nights again.
 

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I unsubscribed from /r/Westworld. I'm not going through the same crap this season as I did last. Those people uncovered the whole plot before the season ended and I'm still salty about it.

I enjoyed last night's episode. Sets the stage well for what should be a very fun season. I wonder how many episodes it will take to catch us up to Bernard waking up on the beach?
 

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I unsubscribed from /r/Westworld. I'm not going through the same crap this season as I did last. Those people uncovered the whole plot before the season ended and I'm still salty about it.

I enjoyed last night's episode. Sets the stage well for what should be a very fun season. I wonder how many episodes it will take to catch us up to Bernard waking up on the beach?

Didn't they say it had been 2 weeks since the massacre and when they found Bernard? Now that you bring up that gap in time, I'm really interested to see what transpired to the hosts at the "non-existent" Lake and what role Bernard played in that.
 

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I'll start out with a question that'll get me laughed at:

How do the hosts have weapons that can kill guests?

I thought the weapons were 'coded' to misfire/not work when pointed at guests? Or the ammo somehow turned non-lethal (i.e. hosts can shoot hosts, but guests can't shoot guests) when pointed at a guest. I guess the change in the narrative turned all those safety precautions off.

I'll say one thing about this show, you definitely have to pay attention to remember what timeline you are currently in. If you don't pay attention for 30 seconds you think you've got the same characters but it might be a jump of 30 years it seems like.
 

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I thought the weapons were 'coded' to misfire/not work when pointed at guests? Or the ammo somehow turned non-lethal (i.e. hosts can shoot hosts, but guests can't shoot guests) when pointed at a guest. I guess the change in the narrative turned all those safety precautions off.

That is what I took away too. That the program had been changed to recognize everyone, even the humans, as hosts. So, the bullets can harm/hit hosts and with humans identified as hosts, they are treated the same.
 

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That is what I took away too. That the program had been changed to recognize everyone, even the humans, as hosts. So, the bullets can harm/hit hosts and with humans identified as hosts, they are treated the same.


The hosts always went down with the rounds being fired, so that was the safeguard against hosts firing on guests or guests firing at other guests?
 

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Cool that actor, Gustaf Skarsgard - Floki from "Vikings" is on the show this season. Good actor with solid levels.

Playing Karl Strand in Westworld this season.

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I thought the weapons were 'coded' to misfire/not work when pointed at guests? Or the ammo somehow turned non-lethal (i.e. hosts can shoot hosts, but guests can't shoot guests) when pointed at a guest. I guess the change in the narrative turned all those safety precautions off.

I'll say one thing about this show, you definitely have to pay attention to remember what timeline you are currently in. If you don't pay attention for 30 seconds you think you've got the same characters but it might be a jump of 30 years it seems like.
Yeah didn’t Kid Robot Ford just say everything is Westworld is a code? Ford just changed the way Westworld works. The host could shoot humans and it hurt but it wasn’t lethal. Now the bullet code may be different but the host want to kill is the same.
 

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Also we are already on two timelines again in season two, right? Bernard with Charlotte is past and Bernard with Delos Team is present?
 
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Also we are already on two timelines again in season two, right? Bernard with Charlotte is past and Bernard with Delos Team is present?

Correct - team Delos finds Bernard two weeks after the massacre, they take him to the encampment where he sees the security force execute some of the hosts, and then they travel to the sea (which isn't supposed to exist) and find all the other hosts dead, to which Bernard states "I killed them."

Bernard and Charlotte appear to be within 24 hours after the massacre and then they locate the bunker, where Charlotte tells Bernard of her plans and how no help will arrive until her contacts on the outside receive "the package" (Abernathy). So we have to see how all that transpires, how the sea is created, and how/why Bernard kills the hosts (or why he thinks he killed the hosts).

We have no idea when in time William shoots Young Ford or when Dolores(or is it Wyatt now?) begins executing the civilians.
 

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Correct - team Delos finds Bernard two weeks after the massacre, they take him to the encampment where he sees the security force execute some of the hosts, and then they travel to the sea (which isn't supposed to exist) and find all the other hosts dead, to which Bernard states "I killed them."

Bernard and Charlotte appear to be within 24 hours after the massacre and then they locate the bunker, where Charlotte tells Bernard of her plans and how no help will arrive until her contacts on the outside receive "the package" (Abernathy). So we have to see how all that transpires, how the sea is created, and how/why Bernard kills the hosts (or why he thinks he killed the hosts).

We have no idea when in time William shoots Young Ford or when Dolores(or is it Wyatt now?) begins executing the civilians.

We also still have the young William timeline. I'm not sure how involved it will be, but I know Jimmi Simpson is in season two.

There's also the Arnold/Delores talks. I'm not sure if you count that as a separate timeline or just flashback.
 

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We also still have the young William timeline. I'm not sure how involved it will be, but I know Jimmi Simpson is in season two.

There's also the Arnold/Delores talks. I'm not sure if you count that as a separate timeline or just flashback.

Correct, we see Jimmi Simpson's William and his Brother-in-Law Logan a few times in the preview for the weeks ahead. We also see young William in the park with an older fellow - possibly his soon to be Father-in-Law who provides the finances that allows William to buy ownership of the park.

I guess the final timeline worth following is Maeve's journey in operations and how she gains access to at least one other park (as seen in the S2 preview).
 

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The hosts always went down with the rounds being fired, so that was the safeguard against hosts firing on guests or guests firing at other guests?

Both. As mentioned in a previous post, the bullets would hurt guests, but not be lethal, but could be lethal to hosts. Now, with the probably changed code by Ford, bullets are lethal to everyone host or quest.
 

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Of course, they flashed scenes where Dolores and Teddy appear to be in the "real" world.
 

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Of course, they flashed scenes where Dolores and Teddy appear to be in the "real" world.

Or another park? Really excited for season 2 tomorrow. Haven't seemed to care enough to watch a show live since GoT. This show is taking over for best on TV.
 

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So just going through episdoe 1 again. I guess that they must have been successful in getting Abernathy out since the extraction team ended up coming in the later timeline? They said they wouldn't send help unless the IP was sent.