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Not necessarily, it's not Walking Dead, it's HBO. Could, hopefully, be a big revealing with ramifications for next season. I like that the season finales for GoT didn't go always go for cheap WD type TV tricks (one reason I stopped watching WD). I don't count the one season end with "dead" John Snow because we all knew he was not really going to stay dead.
I do agree. But the Finale's are usually left on a Cliff-Hanger, if we are going off of GoT type reveals, we would have to expect a big reveal will be coming next week!!
 

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So one thing I've wondered now that it seems the William and Delores story is 30 years in the past is, when did the Delores scenes from early in the show occur, it seems they were in the present because she runs into the MiB while he's starting off on his journey to find the maze. Also, when did all of the stuff about Delores becoming self-aware and killing the fly and stuff happen. Initially the show made it seem like that was after the run in with the MiB, so you'd think it was in the current. If that is the case, then it seems like a story line that has just been left hanging, unless Delores becomes self-aware in the past.

Someone really needs to try to put together an infograph of the timeline and stuff, because the Delores story arc really confuses me.

I think, if the multiple timeline angle is what's going on, we'll look back on scene transitions that we assume took place sequentially, and find out that they actually didn't. Like when Delores runs away and shows up in Billy and Logan's camp in the middle of the night. We're meant to think that happens sequentially, but maybe we're just being fooled by that. There's nothing concrete that tells us that one scene led directly into the next. That's just what we assume. It's not hard to imagine the audience being presented with a false impression of the timeline of events that will be ironed out down the line.
 
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I don't think there will be a huge cliff hanger. They didn't secure a season 2 until recently and I thought I saw Jonathan Nolan saying somewhere that the ending would have closure.
 

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For interesting takes on all of the theories out there check out JOANNA ROBINSON. She post thoughts on all of the episodes including gifs that show clues. It good stuff.

http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood...am-same-person-shirt-knife-multiple-timelines

It is hilarious reading all of the speculations, and it is a sign of just what a great show this is.

One of my favorites is someone that has watched the episodes in meticulous fashion and argues that flies are a giveaway to the two timelines. In the "past" scenes, there are no flies in Westworld. In the "current" scenes with MiB, there are flies on dead bodies, etc. Cracks me up to think about someone rewatching scenes to find (or not see) flies to support his/her theory.
 
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I don't think there will be a huge cliff hanger. They didn't secure a season 2 until recently and I thought I saw Jonathan Nolan saying somewhere that the ending would have closure.

They have been planning a long run and have the actors signed to mulit-year deals. Would have had to really bomb for this to be a one and done.

Actor James Marsden, who plays Teddy Flood on the show, told Entertainment Weekly that the showrunners focus wasn’t just on the first season, but the next five or six years. According to the actor, the executive producers wanted to plot out the entire show up until its finale and have that goal in mind from the very first episode.

http://www.polygon.com/tv/2016/9/9/12860810/westworld-hbo-jonathan-nolan
 

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I'll just SPOILER this whole post:

That episode was pretty awesome. Janny called Bernarnold pretty early on in the episode, and I called Delores being Arnold's murderer.

Janny was thinking that Delores having mechanical innards proved that it was a past timeline; while I do think that timeline was in the past, and the robot parts of the dismembered soldiers proved it, didn't Ford say earlier in the series (one of the first couple of episodes) that Delores was one of the only hosts who still had the original anatomy?

I think Charlotte is William/MiB's daughter, which would explain the animosity toward him (remember his soliloquy about how his daughter hated him). Although, she appears to maybe be of mixed race, which wouldn't make sense if William is white and Logan is white (and it's his full sister marrying William).

The acting has been really, really good in this. Anthony Hopkins in particular, obviously - man, does he play a villain well. Thandie Newton has been exceptional, and it's hard to remember that Evan Rachel Wood used to be pigeonholed as Mrs. Marilyn Manson-to-be. Ed Harris has such an elegance on the screen, and even James Marsden has been going past the usual range you see from him.
 
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I'll just SPOILER this whole post:

That episode was pretty awesome. Janny called Bernarnold pretty early on in the episode, and I called Delores being Arnold's murderer.

Janny was thinking that Delores having mechanical innards proved that it was a past timeline; while I do think that timeline was in the past, and the robot parts of the dismembered soldiers proved it, didn't Ford say earlier in the series (one of the first couple of episodes) that Delores was one of the only hosts who still had the original anatomy?

I think Charlotte is William/MiB's daughter, which would explain the animosity toward him (remember his soliloquy about how his daughter hated him). Although, she appears to maybe be of mixed race, which wouldn't make sense if William is white and Logan is white (and it's his full sister marrying William).

The acting has been really, really good in this. Anthony Hopkins in particular, obviously - man, does he play a villain well. Thandie Newton has been exceptional, and it's hard to remember that Evan Rachel Wood used to be pigeonholed as Mrs. Marilyn Manson-to-be. Ed Harris has such an elegance on the screen, and even James Marsden has been going past the usual range you see from him.
Third paragraph of your spoiler filter: never thought about that so I think you're right that would likely eliminate the father/daughter theory.
 
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Third paragraph of your spoiler filter: never thought about that so I think you're right that would likely eliminate the father/daughter theory.

That's what I'm thinking, too. It just struck me as I was writing it- which sort of excluded my own theory! Maybe they're only half-siblings from two different moms?
 

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I've been very focused on the whole different timelines as I watch and a few things have stuck out at me. I'll spoiler just in case.

First, its important to remember that the hosts experience a memory as vividly as when the first had that experience. With that in mind, I think there are 3 Delores timelines going on in the show right now and we saw them all last night. There is Delores in the blue dress that is interviewed by Arnold, who we've seen a couple times throughout the show. I think this is probably the earliest timeline for Delores. Then there is Delores with William. Then there is present day Delores.

I think present day Delores is the Delores that became self-aware earlier in the season because the picture she found was the picture of William's fiance that Logan gave him last night. The show made it seem like the final scene was a continuation of Delores' scenes with William and Logan when she ran away, but she didn't have the wound to her stomach and then the MiB showed up at the end. I still think William is probably the MiB, but if that is true, I'm curious how he goes from really caring for Delores to the cruelty he shows towards her as the MiB.
 
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Third paragraph of your spoiler filter: never thought about that so I think you're right that would likely eliminate the father/daughter theory.
The picture that was found by Abernathy in the first episode, the one that Logan gave to william yesterday, made it seem as if that girl in the picture was of a darker skin shade, so it could be possible that that was his daughter. If we are solely basing it on Logan, it's hard to tell, but the picture seems to be that she is a caramel color.
 
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The scene in the house last week where Ford shows Bernard a picture of him and his dad. We see it from Bernard's perspective and the photo only shows Ford and his dad but really Arnold is in the photo too but Bernard can't see him just like he couldn't see himself on the blueprints last night.

Definitely. It's just a theory.

Bernard was programmed so he cannot see anything that would "hurt" him according to Ford last night. This is why Bernard could not see himself on the schematics. The theory takes it further and says Bernard could not see himself in the photo because it would "hurt" him. So Bernard is a host that looks like an Arnold replica.

Bump from Nov 14th ;)
 

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The picture that was found by Abernathy in the first episode, the one that Logan gave to william yesterday, made it seem as if that girl in the picture was of a darker skin shade, so it could be possible that that was his daughter. If we are solely basing it on Logan, it's hard to tell, but the picture seems to be that she is a caramel color.
Good catch!
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Rumors are flying that Anthony Hopkins and Ed Harris won't return for future seasons.

If Hopkins isn't back I don't how this will get the six or seven year run that's been talked about.

I fully anticipate Thandie gutting Ed Harris this Sunday, so I can't consider him not being back as much of a surprise.
 
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Rumors are flying that Anthony Hopkins and Ed Harris won't return for future seasons.

If Hopkins isn't back I don't how this will get the six or seven year run that's been talked about.

I fully anticipate Thandie gutting Ed Harris this Sunday, so I can't consider him not being back as much as a surprise.

I can see how their story arcs are coming to an end - but man, that would be a loss to the show. They'd have to really bring in some heavy hitters to replace Sir Anthony and a four-time Oscar nominee.
 

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Quite frankly I dont know how they continue multiple seasons anyway. I think they should do 2 years maybe 3 like some other HBO shows have done. Would have great momentum and could go out on a high note.
 
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