That is interesting.
But I guess idk why she would be the "Delos" specific host, and not even be shown to them. Angela, Clementine, and Akecheta were the ones who gave it and eventually sold Logan on it.
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But I guess idk why she would be the "Delos" specific host, and not even be shown to them. Angela, Clementine, and Akecheta were the ones who gave it and eventually sold Logan on it.
She did. The scene where Arnold is talking to her and Ford comes in and asks if she is ready. He refers to her as Dolores that scene.
I think you have the timelines mxed up some. William was married to Logans sister at the time he took him into Westworld for the first time. Logan said as much in the "pitch scene" when William walks away before the presentation, and Logan makes a snarky comment about him and his sister. We know that William gives Jim the pitch to purchase Westworld after he goes to WestWorld for the first time, because of the scene where they see it together and have the dialogue about why Jim should care about this place because he'll be dead before it means anything. In that scene William has a moment with Dolores, to reference their past.
Logan created the moster that Will is today that first time he brought him into Westworld, and once he saw what that type of place can really do to a person and how it helped William gain favor with his father and in the business, it caused him to go into a downward spiral of drugs and depression. (only assuming this because of the scene where he is shooting up with Dolores by him, and he says
“Do you want to know what they’re really celebrating out there? That my dear, is the sounds of fools fiddling, while the whole ******* species starts to burn. And the funniest ******* part, they lit the match. Here’s to you ********. May your forever be blissfully short."
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I’m going to put this theory in spoilers because of something that was said in last nights episode that I think may be a reveal later this season:
Delos Sr told William that he is dying (or rather died) from a disease that he stopped funding the research for - is this the same thing that killed Arnold/Bernard’s son? Is that enough to build “Dolores” and have her kill everyone in the Delos family, knowing that their greed would cause them to invest in the park but would actually be their end?
that is a very interesting theory, that has merit and a set up to it with how we're currently laid out. I could see it happening.
But, and I'm asking cause I do not know, didn't Arnold get killed even before the park was opened to the public?
Based on the scene of Arnold and Dolores before the pitch, Arnold didn't seem too far away from his breaking point, and there hadn't even been an investment at that point. Although, I do think they mentioned Arnolds family, and how he'd be closer to them in that new house.
but to your point in the spoiler, more
I do think that little tid bit was put in there for a reason, they wouldn't just throw out that he stopped funding research for the sickness that killed him if there wasn't something more to it.
At this point, I'm so deep into my thoughts on theories, that I'm starting to question if I'm a host or not..If you guys keep twisting yourself into pretzels over thinking this you might spring a leak of your Host Brain Juice. And that would be bad, man, very bad.
If you guys keep twisting yourself into pretzels over thinking this you might spring a leak of your Host Brain Juice. And that would be bad, man, very bad.
Cortical Fluid.
My thoughts below...
What if that disease he's mentioning has killed off the human race, or is inevitably going to? What if this consciousness transfer is the bigger idea for West World, that in order for the human race to survive, we need to have what is the essence of "us" placed in a robot body that's immune to disease.
That would be an awesome twist.
That would be an awesome twist.
So we’ve heard “Ford” tell MiB to go forward he must go back. We think this means back to the days of young William, but what if he means the VERY beginning with the death of Arnold’s son?
Arnold’s very humanity was stripped away from him because of people wanting to escape to the fictional WestWorld. Arnold’s conversations with Dolores is him testing her to see how human he can make her to play against Delos and the investors that ruined his life. Arnold ultimately tests this out when Wyatt/Dolores finally kills him, proving that his weapon is ready.
WestWorld isn’t a morality/mortality story about AI - it is a straight-up Western revenge tale.
Arnold’s very humanity was stripped away from him because of people wanting to escape to the fictional WestWorld. Arnold’s conversations with Dolores is him testing her to see how human he can make her to play against Delos and the investors that ruined his life. Arnold ultimately tests this out when Wyatt/Dolores finally kills him, proving that his weapon is ready.
WestWorld isn’t a morality/mortality story about AI - it is a straight-up Western revenge tale.
The icing on the cake:
The name "Dolores" means sorrow, sorrowful &/or pain
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolores_(given_name)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolores_(given_name)
I think this is very interesting theory!
http://m.ign.com/articles/2018/05/14/westworld-season-2-episode-4-review-the-riddle-of-the-sphinx
http://m.ign.com/articles/2018/05/14/westworld-season-2-episode-4-review-the-riddle-of-the-sphinx
I think we're going to see a big turning point soon in regards to if this is Ford's game or not. If Ford is (or rather was) human, then his sanity is going to start to breakdown like we just saw with Delos Sr. Ford has about 30 days before his cognitive abilities will crash and he needs to be reset by someone in the lab. If Ford continues to challenge William/MiB after that deadline, then William is going to know that Ford wasn't human at the time of the uprising and his consciousness was constructed by someone else - possibly Bernard/Arnold?
I'm of the opinion that Ford is a decoy. We hear his voice in other hosts and just assume that it's Ford, but what if it's the "game master" just using Ford's voice through the other hosts. Ford's shift towards the end of S1 seemed very out of place from the younger version we saw in flashbacks - so what changed him?
Also -
what if Ford himself was the safety protocols for the park? Only Dolores, who in my theory is the revenge vessel for Arnold, would have the programming power to kill Ford, as demonstrated when she killed Arnold. Ford either knows this as fact and he will either die of natural causes or at the hands of Dolores. Perhaps Ford finally saw what Arnold saw through what his park had become and said "you know what, you all deserve this" and let Dolores take her shot.
