Walking Dead

[cyhiphopp]

Rick is making decisions for his own reasons again. He's going to regret that. I know he wanted to prevent causing a rift in the group over Carol, but they will divide anyway and blame him instead. Would have been better to take her before the council.

I would have let her stay. What she did was more reasoned than Carl shooting a kid that was putting down his weapon. Yeah she made a bad decision but she's not a bad person.

I have a feeling they will run into her again, possibly when then are forced to leave the prison either this season or next. Maybe Carol gets a chance to redeem herself by helping the remaining group.

I'm ticked that hippy Ana got killed so soon. There needs to be more cute chicks in the group.

 

[bos]

The people have survived for this long, yet when Rick comes along they get killed.

I think thats by design. He has become very indecisive and its costing people their lives.

 

[bos]

Rick is making decisions for his own reasons again. He's going to regret that. I know he wanted to prevent causing a rift in the group over Carol, but they will divide anyway and blame him instead. Would have been better to take her before the council.

I would have let her stay. What she did was more reasoned than Carl shooting a kid that was putting down his weapon. Yeah she made a bad decision but she's not a bad person.

I have a feeling they will run into her again, possibly when then are forced to leave the prison either this season or next. Maybe Carol gets a chance to redeem herself by helping the remaining group.

I'm ticked that hippy Ana got killed so soon. There needs to be more cute chicks in the group.

This. However he always weighed in that this could save her life instead of letting Tyrese get her. So it was almost a best of both worlds type deal.

 

[bos]

The funny thing ultimately to me is that there is so much change from the comics. So many folks who are alive now arent alive in the books and vice versa. Also, with the inclusion of Daryl, so much has changed on the futures of characters like Michonne and Tyrese I believe. Keeps the story fresh, I like it.

 

[cyhiphopp]

This.

Yep, even if some people agree with letting Carol go, they will be upset that he did it on his own.

There's also going to be a LOT of people who disagree with letting Carol go. It's not like she killed someone over a piece of fruit. She killed people who probably would have suffered and died and spread disease to others.

The "vanilla" decision would have been to let them lay there and die, possibly infecting others. Carol didn't want to risk it.

 

[WalkingCY]

The people have survived for this long, yet when Rick comes along they get killed.

Yeah, I thought that was bush-league writing there too.

Also, the discussion about Carol. I would have let her stand in front of the council. Rick will be making it harder on himself now, which didn't need to happen.

Also, the blonde dude with the shoulder situation, do you think Carol finds him? Or were these "new" characters just really poorly written for this episode?

 

[Clark]

Yep, even if some people agree with letting Carol go, they will be upset that he did it on his own.

There's also going to be a LOT of people who disagree with letting Carol go. It's not like she killed someone over a piece of fruit. She killed people who probably would have suffered and died and spread disease to others.

The "vanilla" decision would have been to let them lay there and die, possibly infecting others. Carol didn't want to risk it.

They're in a prison, do they not have doors that lock or can be chained up at least? It's really not that hard to put each person in a cell and make it so that they can't get out. If they turn they're confined to a cell and aren't a danger to anyone.

 

[bos]

They're in a prison, do they not have doors that lock or can be chained up at least? It's really not that hard to put each person in a cell and make it so that they can't get out. If they turn they're confined to a cell and aren't a danger to anyone.

Yeah, I agree. They can manage it better. Now that they understand the threat to a point, they could maintain it.

 

[ISUME]

Yeah, I thought that was bush-league writing there too.

Also, the discussion about Carol. I would have let her stand in front of the council. Rick will be making it harder on himself now, which didn't need to happen.

Also, the blonde dude with the shoulder situation, do you think Carol finds him? Or were these "new" characters just really poorly written for this episode?

I believe the writing on this episode was just lazy. It reminds me of some of the writing during season 2 of Lost.

 

[tivo2224]

Ok, say Rick made her stand in front of the council. Once Tyrese found out that Carol is the one that killed those two, he would have killed her himself. Rick did the right thing on many different levels and probably saved Carol's life.

 

[cyhiphopp]

My feelings on the total direction of the show:

It will start to get less stagnant when they are forced to leave the prison.
There has to be some other organized groups of survivors out there to interact with.
There needs to be some kind of goal or destination for the group or this will be a lost season. If all they do is have some survive the sickness then that's not much development.

 

[cyhiphopp]

Ok, say Rick made her stand in front of the council. Once Tyrese found out that Carol is the one that killed those two, he would have killed her himself. Rick did the right thing on many different levels and probably saved Carol's life.

Then they have to control Tyrese. Killing two infected people who most likely would have died is better than taking revenge on Carol. Tyrese is going to end up killing himself before to long anyways.

 

[Clark]

My feelings on the total direction of the show:

It will start to get less stagnant when they are forced to leave the prison.
There has to be some other organized groups of survivors out there to interact with.
There needs to be some kind of goal or destination for the group or this will be a lost season. If all they do is have some survive the sickness then that's not much development.

I don't read comics but I assume they don't stay in the prison forever right?

 

[cyhiphopp]

Oh, there will hopefully be some action soon with whoevers baiting the walkers with rats. That should liven things up.

 

[cyhiphopp]

I don't read comics but I assume they don't stay in the prison forever right?

I haven't read them either. I think they will leave the prison before the end of this season for some reason.

 

[Clark]

Then they have to control Tyrese. Killing two infected people who most likely would have died is better than taking revenge on Carol. Tyrese is going to end up killing himself before to long anyways.

Murder is murder. On top of that, as a member of the council, she of all people should understand the consequences of acting alone without consulting other people.

Tyrese would have tried to kill her. So is it worth it to bring her back and know that either her or Tyrese will be dead because of it?

 

[cyhiphopp]

Murder is murder. On top of that, as a member of the council, she of all people should understand the consequences of acting alone without consulting other people.

Tyrese would have tried to kill her. So is it worth it to bring her back and know that either her or Tyrese will be dead because of it?

I'd rather have her than Tyrese. Heck, if I were Rick I wouldn't have told anyone. He needs mentally strong people that he can trust. Carol made a "for the greater good" decision, even though questionable. I still trust her more than Tyrese.

 

[tivo2224]

I'd rather have her than Tyrese. Heck, if I were Rick I wouldn't have told anyone. He needs mentally strong people that he can trust. Carol made a "for the greater good" decision, even though questionable. I still trust her more than Tyrese.

Tyrese is the same type of crazy Rick was last season. He will bounce back and when they do have to leave the prison I would much rather have Tyrese than I would Carol. She really added nothing to the group. Think of it from Rick's point of view. What if Carl or Judith were the first ones to get sick? Would she have killed them like she did the other two? I sure wouldnt trust her.

 

[Clark]

I'd rather have her than Tyrese. Heck, if I were Rick I wouldn't have told anyone. He needs mentally strong people that he can trust. Carol made a "for the greater good" decision, even though questionable. I still trust her more than Tyrese.

That's where we don't see eye to eye. I don't believe Carol is mentally strong, she's just becoming Shane.

 

[Buster28]

Carol was becoming a much better developed character this season - vastly different than the woman we saw in season 1. I hope she returns at some point.

Chris Jericho was pretty great on Talking Dead last night, as someone else mentioned earlier. Marilyn Manson was unwatchable last week. I kept having to fast forward the DVR when he started talking.