Walking Dead

Yes, but the military has a lot of very secure bases, including underground bunkers. They have the firepower to put down everyone on earth 100 times over if they had to.

Army is full of guys with families. They also have some issues with unstable personnel as well. Bunkers and bases will run out of supplies and the caged rat syndrome will get them eventually.
 
Yes, but the military has a lot of very secure bases, including underground bunkers. They have the firepower to put down everyone on earth 100 times over if they had to.

Exactly. How do you know they didn't just split for the bunkers? And maybe they don't want to nuke Atlanta because they don't want to kill hold-outs, who knows? You're right about their failure at the camp but it's totally plausible that armed terrified citizens could make the Army cut and run.

Your concerns will no doubt be addressed beginning next October.
 
Or heading into the heart of a big city after a zombie apocalypse...

You're assuming that the one-handed bad guy didn't release a small crop of them into the camp.

Not just heading into the heart of a big city, but doing so on a horse. You know, the animals notorious for being scared and panicking?

As for Merle, it's possible that he did lead the dead back to the camp, but then somehow managed to escape back into the woods and head off by himself. However, they did find a walker earlier on, and they did float around the idea that with the living now gone from the city, the dead had probably left to follow food sources (such as wild animals).

Yeah I would venture to say the army could still be overrun by not only by zombies but panicky multitudes of people. You only have so many bullets.

Secondly, does anyone else find themselves irritated at some of the strategic decisions that the remaining humans make?

Like the Hispanic family going out on their own.... There's gotta be more safety in numbers.

The night the camp got ambushed while they were finishing up their fish fry.... you gotta watch your perimeter. There's no excuse for getting "surprised" by slow-moving, non-thinking zombies, IMO.

I also would like to think our military could defend themselves against a slow walking, not terribly smart army of zombies..... but I guess you have to suspend belief for a series like this.

While there is indeed strength in numbers, large groups also require more space and attract more attention. A family of four could travel safer than a group of twenty.

I agree about watching the perimeter though. They were lulled into a false sense of security with their location, even though there had been a zombie that had wandered up near their camp before, and then at night, when they were most vulnerable, they let down their guard. Plus, the sounds, smells and possible beacon from the fire would have attracted the dead.

You're assuming the military would know how to fight the undead. From the tanks, and heavy weapons deployed on the streets, and their actions in the hospital during the flashbacks in the final episode it would seem they treated this like some mass uprising, and not as they should have. I wouldn't be surprised if they wasted their ammo and were simply overrun. Remember, we're talking of millions, potentially, of creatures that need you to aim at a specific spot on their body to kill them. Human armies have been overrun by numbers before, and if there's one thing going for zombies...it's sheer numbers.

Maybe the military wasn't fighting zombies? We're only six episodes into this.

Well, Jenner mentions there was a military cordon, and you do see plenty of tanks and dead soldiers around Atlanta. And then in the flashback, you have the soldiers executing patients and hospital staff (whether they were infected is never really shown).
 
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I'll give it an B. I wish HBO was producing it. They have the best production value and acting.

Me too. And I really did enjoy this season... finale was excellent I thought, loved the claustrophobic feeling, and trying to figure out what is exactly was going through the mind of the last guy left in CDC. After watching HBO dramas over the years I always find myself wishing everything was on HBO, as the acting and production values are always the best (absolutely cannnot wait for Game of Thrones to come out on HBO in April, most excited I've ever been for a TV show), plus of course everything is better without censorship (though I was amazed at how far AMC took the violence/sex).

But I'd give the season a B+. One question... when the heck did 6 episodes constitute a season? Hope they are already filming the next one.
 
Secondly, does anyone else find themselves irritated at some of the strategic decisions that the remaining humans make?

Like the Hispanic family going out on their own.... There's gotta be more safety in numbers.

The night the camp got ambushed while they were finishing up their fish fry.... you gotta watch your perimeter. There's no excuse for getting "surprised" by slow-moving, non-thinking zombies, IMO.

I also would like to think our military could defend themselves against a slow walking, not terribly smart army of zombies..... but I guess you have to suspend belief for a series like this.[/QUOTE]

While there is indeed strength in numbers, large groups also require more space and attract more attention. A family of four could travel safer than a group of twenty.

I agree about watching the perimeter though. They were lulled into a false sense of security with their location, even though there had been a zombie that had wandered up near their camp before, and then at night, when they were most vulnerable, they let down their guard. Plus, the sounds, smells and possible beacon from the fire would have attracted the dead.

You're assuming the military would know how to fight the undead. From the tanks, and heavy weapons deployed on the streets, and their actions in the hospital during the flashbacks in the final episode it would seem they treated this like some mass uprising, and not as they should have. I wouldn't be surprised if they wasted their ammo and were simply overrun. Remember, we're talking of millions, potentially, of creatures that need you to aim at a specific spot on their body to kill them. Human armies have been overrun by numbers before, and if there's one thing going for zombies...it's sheer numbers.



Well, Jenner mentions there was a military cordon, and you do see plenty of tanks and dead soldiers around Atlanta. And then in the flashback, you have the soldiers executing patients and hospital staff (whether they were infected is never really shown).

I'll type this slow because I know you're a hawkfan. Obviously the military was present; whether the imminent threat was zombies or hundreds of thousands of terrified people with guns is not totally clear. It is plausible that the military casualties depicted were the result not of zombie attack but of armed Georgian attack trying to get to the CDC.

The soldiers murdering civilians reinforces a battle scenario between the citizens and the military.
 
I'll type this slow because I know you're a hawkfan. Obviously the military was present; whether the imminent threat was zombies or hundreds of thousands of terrified people with guns is not totally clear. It is plausible that the military casualties depicted were the result not of zombie attack but of armed Georgian attack trying to get to the CDC.

The soldiers murdering civilians reinforces a battle scenario between the citizens and the military.

I would be very hesitant to bring my family near a small army faction. Who knows whats going on in their heads.
 
I'll type this slow because I know you're a hawkfan. Obviously the military was present; whether the imminent threat was zombies or hundreds of thousands of terrified people with guns is not totally clear. It is plausible that the military casualties depicted were the result not of zombie attack but of armed Georgian attack trying to get to the CDC.

The soldiers murdering civilians reinforces a battle scenario between the citizens and the military.

I love how you respond to my perfectly reasonable post with an insult. Thanks.

Anyway, I never said that the military WAS or WASN'T fighting off zombies in a massive war effort. I just said that they were present and clearly engaged against the infection. Depending on the agent causing the zombie apocalypse, it's possible that they were there in a clean-up mode, and by the looks of the soldiers wearing hazmat suits, and potentially killing uninfected civilians, it's possible they did not know or care how the disease was spread.

This also depends on what your definition of "fighting the zombies" is. If you're imagining something like the Battle of Yonkers from the World War Z book, then there's no way of knowing whether it happened or not. However, if you're imagining the military involvement to be more along the lines of containing the infection, then yes, it did happen. In the first or second episode, you see Rick moving by a somewhat large, but not very well protected (in terms of walls and the such) military field hospital/field camp, with helicopters, Humvees, etc. And that was in his hometown, IIRC and NOT in Atlanta.

As for the soldiers being killed during fights with civilians, yes it is likely, but I wouldn't say it's more likely than the soldiers being overrun by zombies. Case in point, when Rick jumps in the tank, he sits right next to a zombie soldier, who does wake up before Rick kills him (again, I suppose). Of course, we don't know how the soldier died or how he got infected, so there's that...
 
I love how you respond to my perfectly reasonable post with an insult. Thanks.

Anyway, I never said that the military WAS or WASN'T fighting off zombies in a massive war effort. I just said that they were present and clearly engaged against the infection. Depending on the agent causing the zombie apocalypse, it's possible that they were there in a clean-up mode, and by the looks of the soldiers wearing hazmat suits, and potentially killing uninfected civilians, it's possible they did not know or care how the disease was spread.

This also depends on what your definition of "fighting the zombies" is. If you're imagining something like the Battle of Yonkers from the World War Z book, then there's no way of knowing whether it happened or not. However, if you're imagining the military involvement to be more along the lines of containing the infection, then yes, it did happen. In the first or second episode, you see Rick moving by a somewhat large, but not very well protected (in terms of walls and the such) military field hospital/field camp, with helicopters, Humvees, etc. And that was in his hometown, IIRC and NOT in Atlanta.

As for the soldiers being killed during fights with civilians, yes it is likely, but I wouldn't say it's more likely than the soldiers being overrun by zombies. Case in point, when Rick jumps in the tank, he sits right next to a zombie soldier, who does wake up before Rick kills him (again, I suppose). Of course, we don't know how the soldier died or how he got infected, so there's that...

You're welcome.

And this goes back to my point about waiting for next season. I think (I hope) that a lot of these things will get resolved. It's making it really hard not to go pick up the comics. I've give myself a 50/50 chance before next October.
 
This show is great, too bad there was only 6 episodes for the season...

It's understandable.

AMC doesn't have the resources to order 13 or 22 episodes of a show without knowing it will be a commercial success. If the show were a flop, they would have wasted development money on something cancelled that would never accrue any advertising revenue at all.

The show was good enough to become a modest hit, and now will be able to attract a level of screenwriter to match it. Continued commercial success will lead AMC to dump even more into production which opens doors in terms of broader plotlines and location filming, and special effects. Should improve a lot going forward.

My greater beef would be with AMC having a huge hit on their hands and being stuck in a situation where no new episodes will air for almost a year. A certain number of viewers will move on, making it difficult to maintain ratings momentum. Had they gambled and ordered another two months of episodes right out of the gate, they might have had an all time ratings blockbuster for a first year program on cable.

Another thing I have been wondering: the level of "zombie" content on the internet spiked up in the late summer last year. Every couple days I was getting new stupid stuff about the zombie apocalypse online and in my inbox. I wonder if AMC's promotion people had a hand in that as an indirect way of generating interest in the show.
 
It's understandable.

AMC doesn't have the resources to order 13 or 22 episodes of a show without knowing it will be a commercial success. If the show were a flop, they would have wasted development money on something cancelled that would never accrue any advertising revenue at all.

The show was good enough to become a modest hit, and now will be able to attract a level of screenwriter to match it. Continued commercial success will lead AMC to dump even more into production which opens doors in terms of broader plotlines and location filming, and special effects. Should improve a lot going forward.

My greater beef would be with AMC having a huge hit on their hands and being stuck in a situation where no new episodes will air for almost a year. A certain number of viewers will move on, making it difficult to maintain ratings momentum. Had they gambled and ordered another two months of episodes right out of the gate, they might have had an all time ratings blockbuster for a first year program on cable.

Another thing I have been wondering: the level of "zombie" content on the internet spiked up in the late summer last year. Every couple days I was getting new stupid stuff about the zombie apocalypse online and in my inbox. I wonder if AMC's promotion people had a hand in that as an indirect way of generating interest in the show.

They should have made a christmas episode like syfy did with Eureka and Warehouse 13. :spinny:
 
No end in sight; currently on issue #78. The show probably covers stuff from the first 5-6 issues; but there is a lot added/changed that isn't in the comic.

Below is a link to a relatively brief synopsis of the comic books. It's a little hard to follow with all the names but it still gives you a picture of the tenor and direction of the comics.

I started watching last week and love it so far, although I am a sucker for a zombie flick.

The Walking Dead (Comic) - Zombie Wiki - Zombies, Undead, Survival Guide
 
Me too. And I really did enjoy this season... finale was excellent I thought, loved the claustrophobic feeling, and trying to figure out what is exactly was going through the mind of the last guy left in CDC. After watching HBO dramas over the years I always find myself wishing everything was on HBO, as the acting and production values are always the best (absolutely cannnot wait for Game of Thrones to come out on HBO in April, most excited I've ever been for a TV show), plus of course everything is better without censorship (though I was amazed at how far AMC took the violence/sex).

But I'd give the season a B+. One question... when the heck did 6 episodes constitute a season? Hope they are already filming the next one.

Showtime does a great job with Dexter and AMC's other series' Breaking Bad and Mad Men are good shows too.

I love Game of Thrones, I've read through what is out of the book series twice, but sometimes I feel like HBO adds the sex scenes just for the sake of doing so. It does absolutely nothing for the show. Now it's not Spartacus pointless, but pointless nonetheless. I actually prefer stuff a little censored, causes people to be a little more creative.
 
As far as the military goes I think everyone is missing one giant problem. If society itself is over run by a zombie virus the millitary will be too. It's not an issue of whether the military can defeat the zombies..it's can the military themselves not become zombies.

More than likely in the case of a real virius that ever hits the globe government and military's will be hit just as hard most likely as the general population. Couple that will awol's and you've got a short-handed and diseased military going up against a zombie revolution with no way to refuel or reload because the military is so dependant on civilian supplies.
 

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