Toxic work environment

[CycloneSpinning]

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Maybe the assumption was wrong…HR and management were very apologetic and actually scheduled the meeting to offer a big promotion and fat raise?

 

[CycloneSpinning]

someone needs to write "office space 2" and update it with zoom, slack, emails, texting, AI, etc. - would be another big hit!

the crap some of you put up with in your jobs is stunning to me. i've been really lucky.

Don’t forget about Salesforce and python scripts!

 

[DesertClone1]

this SCREAMS like a recruiting company.

 

[dahliaclone]

I came to the meeting with my concerns over the past few months, as well as my concerns on how the meeting went yesterday. They took the information without getting too defensive, but still responded with 'we appreciate your feedback but we disagree with it'. It wasn't heated. It wasn't accusatory on either side. At the end though, due to my stress level of the work environment and them not taking that very seriously, and the behavior of the HR person and my manager in recent meetings, I put in my resignation and offered two weeks. They said two weeks isn't needed, but will pay me for a month. So I'm officially done. AND, I got a consulting job offer a bit ago that I can do while still looking/interviewing for full time and it pays more than the job I left.

I appreciate all of the messages and feedback. Truly helpful, so thank you.

 

[chuckd4735]

I came to the meeting with my concerns over the past few months, as well as my concerns on how the meeting went yesterday. They took the information without getting too defensive, but still responded with 'we appreciate your feedback but we disagree with it'. It wasn't heated. It wasn't accusatory on either side. At the end though, due to my stress level of the work environment and them not taking that very seriously, and the behavior of the HR person and my manager is recent meetings, I put in my resignation and offered two weeks. They said two weeks isn't needed, but will pay me for a month. So I'm officially done. AND, I got a consulting job offer a bit ago that I can do while still looking/interviewing for full time and it pays more than the job I left.

I appreciate all of the messages and feedback. Truly helpful, so thank you.

#winning

 

[SCNCY]

I came to the meeting with my concerns over the past few months, as well as my concerns on how the meeting went yesterday. They took the information without getting too defensive, but still responded with 'we appreciate your feedback but we disagree with it'. It wasn't heated. It wasn't accusatory on either side. At the end though, due to my stress level of the work environment and them not taking that very seriously, and the behavior of the HR person and my manager in recent meetings, I put in my resignation and offered two weeks. They said two weeks isn't needed, but will pay me for a month. So I'm officially done. AND, I got a consulting job offer a bit ago that I can do while still looking/interviewing for full time and it pays more than the job I left.

I appreciate all of the messages and feedback. Truly helpful, so thank you.

Wait, you offered two weeks and they’re going to pay you for a month without doing any work? What’s the catch?

 

[dahliaclone]

#winning

Side note. My manager actually teared up when I put in my two weeks. I honestly think it's because she may know her behavior wasn't great, and they are now pretty fuckeredd losing me immediately. There are four others there with my job title and my ten clients now have to have immediate support. A company of 50 and I was there 8 months. And in that eight months, 19 people left.

 

[dahliaclone]

Wait, you offered two weeks and they’re going to pay you for a month without doing any work? What’s the catch?

My gut says they were maybe 50/50 on firing me. Now they're off the hook for unemployment so threw me a bone.

 

[nhclone]

I've never used Slack, but we had a similar chat/messaging app at a previous job. I don't remember which one it was, but it had a little green circle by your name tell if you were online and active, and then changed to yellow if you were logged in but hadn't done anything on your computer after a certain time period. One of the guys I worked with built a little machine that he could set his mouse in and it would automatically wiggle it every 5 minutes or so to keep his status as active if he wasn't working on the computer. Sounds like there may be a market for those due to over-bearing management.

 

[madguy30]

I came to the meeting with my concerns over the past few months, as well as my concerns on how the meeting went yesterday. They took the information without getting too defensive, but still responded with 'we appreciate your feedback but we disagree with it'. It wasn't heated. It wasn't accusatory on either side. At the end though, due to my stress level of the work environment and them not taking that very seriously, and the behavior of the HR person and my manager in recent meetings, I put in my resignation and offered two weeks. They said two weeks isn't needed, but will pay me for a month. So I'm officially done. AND, I got a consulting job offer a bit ago that I can do while still looking/interviewing for full time and it pays more than the job I left.

I appreciate all of the messages and feedback. Truly helpful, so thank you.

In similar notes I might as well be chewing tin foil and rubbing sand paper on my face whenever someone says 'I hear what you're saying...' and following up with a bunch of nonsense that shows they really weren't listening and just had what they're about to say on the docket the whole time no matter what.

 

[madguy30]

Side note. My manager actually teared up when I put in my two weeks. I honestly think it's because she may know her behavior wasn't great, and they are now pretty fuckeredd losing me immediately. There are four others there with my job title and my ten clients now have to have immediate support. A company of 50 and I was there 8 months. And in that eight months, 19 people left.

Is there a chance that her behavior is something she's programmed to do from the folks above her, or she loses her own job and that's part of the response too?

It could be she knows that having to toe that line is generally damaging and the turmoil from that is only hurting her more.

 

[houjix]

I've never used Slack, but we had a similar chat/messaging app at a previous job. I don't remember which one it was, but it had a little green circle by your name tell if you were online and active, and then changed to yellow if you were logged in but hadn't done anything on your computer after a certain time period. One of the guys I worked with built a little machine that he could set his mouse in and it would automatically wiggle it every 5 minutes or so to keep his status as active if he wasn't working on the computer. Sounds like there may be a market for those due to over-bearing management.

Just schedule yourself for a meeting so that the status indicator is set to Busy. Call it networking or something. One of my supervisors used to do that on Fridays, it just meant he had left for the bar.

 

[dahliaclone]

Is there a chance that her behavior is something she's programmed to do from the folks above her, or she loses her own job and that's part of the response too?

It could be she knows that having to toe that line is generally damaging and the turmoil from that is only hurting her more.

Not sure but could be. The Glassdoor reviews (which I take somewhat with a grain of salt because people can feel jaded or whatever when leaving reviews) all say very similar things on why they left. Management. HR. No upper level accountability. Overworked. Your stress level is next level but they don't care.

 

[cycloneworld]

I came to the meeting with my concerns over the past few months, as well as my concerns on how the meeting went yesterday. They took the information without getting too defensive, but still responded with 'we appreciate your feedback but we disagree with it'. It wasn't heated. It wasn't accusatory on either side. At the end though, due to my stress level of the work environment and them not taking that very seriously, and the behavior of the HR person and my manager in recent meetings, I put in my resignation and offered two weeks. They said two weeks isn't needed, but will pay me for a month. So I'm officially done. AND, I got a consulting job offer a bit ago that I can do while still looking/interviewing for full time and it pays more than the job I left.

I appreciate all of the messages and feedback. Truly helpful, so thank you.

Funny how things things almost always work out for the better when you leave a crap company. Congrats and glad you stuck to your guns. Good luck with the job search.

 

[Tailg8er]

I've never used Slack, but we had a similar chat/messaging app at a previous job. I don't remember which one it was, but it had a little green circle by your name tell if you were online and active, and then changed to yellow if you were logged in but hadn't done anything on your computer after a certain time period. One of the guys I worked with built a little machine that he could set his mouse in and it would automatically wiggle it every 5 minutes or so to keep his status as active if he wasn't working on the computer. Sounds like there may be a market for those due to over-bearing management.

Pretty sure multiple such devices were for sale after covid hit, they were all over social media once a ton of people were working from home.

 

[KennyPratt42]

Never actually done it, because I have a great manager and don't need to, but I've heard that with at least some of the messaging programs if you open a Power Point file and open presentation mode it will keep the light green at least until your computer goes to sleep.

 

[JP4CY]

I've never used Slack, but we had a similar chat/messaging app at a previous job. I don't remember which one it was, but it had a little green circle by your name tell if you were online and active, and then changed to yellow if you were logged in but hadn't done anything on your computer after a certain time period. One of the guys I worked with built a little machine that he could set his mouse in and it would automatically wiggle it every 5 minutes or so to keep his status as active if he wasn't working on the computer. Sounds like there may be a market for those due to over-bearing management.

Never actually done it, because I have a great manager and don't need to, but I've heard that with at least some of the messaging programs if you open a Power Point file and open presentation mode it will keep the light green at least until your computer goes to sleep.

 

[JP4CY]

So @dahliaclone did the counseling even come up? I don't know how they could refute your claim of the non-support.

 

[CascadeClone]

I retired 8 months ago. Over the last 20 years it seemed that an increasing emphasis was put on justifying your job. Also far too many meetings and emails yet no communication.

Lots of this in the world these days.

 

[cowgirl836]

Side note. My manager actually teared up when I put in my two weeks. I honestly think it's because she may know her behavior wasn't great, and they are now pretty fuckeredd losing me immediately. There are four others there with my job title and my ten clients now have to have immediate support. A company of 50 and I was there 8 months. And in that eight months, 19 people left.

I laugh because that's an INSANE level of turnover and you'd think they'd be looking for feedback on how to improve that. Nah, full steam ahead.