Toxic work environment

Well congrats because you don’t have to work again with the massive lawsuit the counseling group will be paying you

You'd think word of a divorce could get out in several other ways than a counselor telling anyone. Don't really get why a company would try to force someone out for getting divorced anyway, happens like 50% of the time these days. Strange situation, definitely toxic.
 
I worked at a place that offered free and confidential counseling - except that it wasn't confidential. The manager was notified (mine was divorce counseling), which got me red-circled and harassed until I resigned. It all worked out good in my case - 16 weeks severance pay with a volsep and I had a better job offer in hand (4 day work week and 10% pay raise).
They broke many laws doing what you said they did. You should have gotten a couple years pay.
 
You'd think word of a divorce could get out in several other ways than a counselor telling anyone. Don't really get why a company would try to force someone out for getting divorced anyway, happens like 50% of the time these days. Strange situation, definitely toxic.
100% agree but if it did get disclosed from a counselor as they said then enjoy your millions
 
I laugh because that's an INSANE level of turnover and you'd think they'd be looking for feedback on how to improve that. Nah, full steam ahead.

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Probably true. But if you work in a company where nobody trusts management, or the feedback that has been given in the past is completely ignored, HR is never going to know about the issues or opportunities to compensate for poor leadership. It’s just a no win situation to bring it up as a regular salaried grunt. And once your culture gets there, good freaking luck getting out of it.
HR can have its own company culture.

Sometimes it can be supportive and kind of coach managers to be better to make everything work.

Usually, they are the hatchet men to protect bad managers and leadership, and they just give up any hope of making the world a better place.
 
Sometimes, this means "we would fire you if we could, but that is a lot a hassle and paperwork, so we are just going to make you miserable until you leave."

Had an old boss in the 90s who referred to this as "helping them find the door".

He would cuss out, berate, belittle, and humiliate people he didn't like. It worked a lot.
 
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I laugh because that's an INSANE level of turnover and you'd think they'd be looking for feedback on how to improve that. Nah, full steam ahead.
Companies like that with terrible cultures, they don't want to change and they don't want feedback. They just say stuff like "not everyone can cut it here" and "we have a high expectation" etc. It's almost like an abusive relationship, where they say "but the company loves me even though they keep hitting me and calling me stupid".

ALL - there are good companies and bad companies. Don't work for the bad ones! Get out. Keep looking.
Life is short, and then you're dead. Don't hate half your existence working for/with a bunch of a-holes.
 
Worked 15 years for a family owned business. Great people that treated me very fairly. Yet...I was having the same conversations with the same people and was not challenged. Led to depression. Over those years I turned down a couple of opportunities because of a fear of uncertainty. Finally, made a change and it has been a wonderful move.

Thus, even in the best of work environments a change can be needed for your own personal growth is stagnant.
 
I can attend to the toxic work environment, ESPECIALLY in recruiting firms, though i was in the back office billing and collections department.

I was puking pretty much every morning going into work. I felt like i couldn't make any mistakes or i would be fired. I finally had enough of it after 8 years. It was terrible, i was not present at home, and i was barely present at the office. I just went about my business and left when my shift was over.

I was a GOOD supervisor, and my team bought into me, just as i bought into my team. Nope... was never good enough for my manager. I was passed up 4 times for promotions because i didn't toe the company line on every single decision they made, i was not able to voice my opinion out of fear of backlash.

Finally had enough after 8 years, put out a flyer on a company, nailed the interview, and got a massive raise ($40K) and am happier than ever, a company that values my input, and let's me run my team the way I want to run it. They trust me, that was my biggest thing thing, trust. When the company doesn't trust you to make any decisions, it's time to get out.
 
Teams usually still goes yellow even if you do that. I used to set up conference calls with myself, call into them and walk away (it shows you as active still, just in a conference call) or put a pocket knife on the spacebar button so it just held the button down and kept me green.

Play You tube music on a browser. That has kept my Teams on green even when I am not at my computer
 
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There is software that can detect that and it is a fireable offense.
Depends on the org and what they do plus the logic behind it but to be fair to you I only use it to avoid my screen locking up.

If you work for an org that would fire you for that or has that level of monitoring you should already be looking for a new job.
 
Sons who took over their dad’s business is my absolutely least favorite category of person.
A place I worked at several years ago the dad had the kids working there, typical incompetence as you'd expect from the owners kids. The old man decided to sell the business outright rather than let the kids have it. New owners promptly fired the kids.
 
I can attend to the toxic work environment, ESPECIALLY in recruiting firms, though i was in the back office billing and collections department.

I was puking pretty much every morning going into work. I felt like i couldn't make any mistakes or i would be fired. I finally had enough of it after 8 years. It was terrible, i was not present at home, and i was barely present at the office. I just went about my business and left when my shift was over.

I was a GOOD supervisor, and my team bought into me, just as i bought into my team. Nope... was never good enough for my manager. I was passed up 4 times for promotions because i didn't toe the company line on every single decision they made, i was not able to voice my opinion out of fear of backlash.

Finally had enough after 8 years, put out a flyer on a company, nailed the interview, and got a massive raise ($40K) and am happier than ever, a company that values my input, and let's me run my team the way I want to run it. They trust me, that was my biggest thing thing, trust. When the company doesn't trust you to make any decisions, it's time to get out.
I'm mid 40s. I just don't have it in me to stay at a job where I'm miserable and don't feel respected. Was it a horrible time to leave with the economy and uncertainty? Maybe but as I've gotten older, my mental health has taken a HUGE front seat in my life. Ultimately, jobs are just fucckking jobs. Miserable? Get out. When I was younger I probably would have gutted it out longer. Not anymore. Life is literally too short for that sh!t.
 
I'm mid 40s. I just don't have it in me to stay at a job where I'm miserable and don't feel respected. Was it a horrible time to leave with the economy and uncertainty? Maybe but as I've gotten older, my mental health has taken a HUGE front seat in my life. Ultimately, jobs are just fucckking jobs. Miserable? Get out. When I was younger I probably would have gutted it out longer. Not anymore. Life is literally too short for that sh!t.
I feel much the same way. Got out of insurance after 10 years in the spring and was off work for three months. Could I have stayed there while I was looking? Yes. But it would have been at the expense of my mental health. We tightened our belts a little and survived just fine. Now, I'm back to doing something I enjoy.
 

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