There is also the off chance that this will work out in our favor. Maybe due to having to pay everyone proportionally they have to spend less on Men's Basketball and Football. Essentially removing the extremely large NIL deals, allowing us to be more competitive. I know this is unlikely, and is probably a pipe dream, but I think this may be the thought process behind it.
Title IX New Ruling Changes NIL Payments for Athletes
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You want to be more competitive than a #2 ranking in basketball and an 11 win football season? Damn, I thought some of the SEC schools had high expectations but that’s impressive
I know we do more with with less better than anyone. I didn't necessarily mean on the field. I meant in the world of NIL. We have 2 great coaches that may or may not be here forever. I would like for the next person to be set up for success. I also don't want years like this to be an anomaly. I would like to see us be one of the top brands in the Big 12, and it not be seen as a surprise when we are.
Well the good news is that NIL spend doesn’t equal the on field success, just look at A&M.
I do get your point though I just love poking fun at the people that talk about this during the schools best athletic years ever in the middle of the Wild West of NIL and transfers.
I think it’s because you are getting paid to come to a school, not coming to a school and getting paid.
Somehow professional sports has figured out how this all works, but these schools can’t? I don’t buy that for a second.
Also, the fact that there is constant tampering. That’s pretty annoying and needs to be dealt with.
There is no real oversight and no accountability. Make everything public. That’s a good place to start.
100% agree in the tampering. Disagree on the public part.
I guess I don’t understand the difference in your first sentence to be honest, mind elaborating?
It didn't matter what they put out. Whatever they put out was / is going to get challenged in court.
the deals aren't going away.
If the schools can't pay the fb\mbb players more NIL deals will just move back outside the school again and it'll be basically like it is now still.
Seems like the Department of Education and the Supreme Court need to fight it out. Dep. of Ed. says they need to spend the same amount on male and female athletes. Supreme Court already ruled that the NCAA and it's member Universities cannot prohibit athletes from earning basically as much money as they can.
Those two are not compatible with one another. I'm guessing the NCAA will sue the Department of Education and get a judge to basically say "The Department of Education guidance is illegal since the Supreme Court already ruled on this, and their guidance doesn't actually follow Title IX".
I don't know. The NFL wouldn't allow a share holder of a franchise to pay Patrick Mahomes like $20mill and have it NOT count against the Chief's salary cap.
That's a pretty good way to sum up the issue.
I suppose looking at it, it's Supreme Court >>> Dept of Ed. So that's probably how it will shake out. I'd have to believe in the end universities will have to be Title 9 compliant, but outsiders won't.
I typed it on the internet, so it must be true!
(just got the wrong number from memory)
Pro sport owners all get together and agree to the rules every franchise will follow. Basically to give them all a fighting chance. College sports is pretty much every man for himself. At least every conference for themselves.
So, in it's current format, this should not be pay for play, correct? If we can't agree on that, we won't be able to agree on the main point of my comment.
I think a student athlete needs to come onto campus without any promises of anything other than a scholarship. Give them real opportunities to market themselves. Unless I am missing something, most of these basketball and football players are getting paid to just show up. Quinn Ewers was offered 8 million dollars to stay in school. To do what?
These athletes with 2 million dollar NIL deals (extreme I know, but the same can be said for 100 or 200 thousand dollar deals too) are doing what exactly for them? I believe the high majority of this money is just dead money after it's handed out. I know ISU is different to a point and We Will requires (or at least did) something to be done for the money. But you can't tell me Student-Athletes do anything worth 2 million dollars in marketing. There is no way these donors are getting any ROI which is what NIL is designed for. Mutually benefitting the company and the athlete.
I understand the students aren't getting what they deserve in most cases even with NIL payments, but that is why they need to unionize and create a pay structure that is feasible, create a salary cap, create REAL penalties for violators that are even across the board. It will require, undoubtedly, profit sharing between the universities. It will require coaches to not demand 10 million dollar deals. It will require, honestly, a revolution in college athletics for anything remotely close to exist, and I get that.
We won't agree on public knowledge, but there is a reason every pro sport does it.
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It's time for college to follow the same ideology.
Agreed but boosters aren’t shareholders, it would be like regulating Mahommes State Farm commercials
