This is why Prohm must go........

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Prohm has shown time and time again he cant coach, its a simple fact. Go back and watch the last 3 minutes of the arizona game, the kstate game at home and the TCU game at home. Nothing changed, stagnant basketball for minutes at a time, zero adjustments. No out of bounds plays, no easy plays to draw a foul or get a layup, nothing. Its horrible to watch.

I guess I should just wait 5 years of mediocrity for the rest of you to realize.

So all your posturing not withstanding with that failed attempt.......Steve Prohm IS really the reason you can't peddle your tickets? And with that sir.....you are either full of s***, or just full of s***. Take your pick.
 

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So all your posturing not withstanding with that failed attempt.......Steve Prohm IS really the reason you can't peddle your tickets? And with that sir.....you are either full of s***, or just full of s***. Take your pick.
I dont Peddle my tickets, if you can go to a full home game stretch good for you. Attendance is down, the games i dont go to dont sell, and the offense is stagnant way too much. These are realities.
 

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Record is similar but look at who Fred lost too. UConn, Ohio State, Kentucky, UAB. 2/3 teams won the championship that year. So quit trying to compare. Prohm has lost to VA, Purdue both of which who lost their next game in the tournament. We will see that trend continue with Ohio state.

FIFY and he's in those situations to lose to OSU and Ky because he led the team to a low seed.
 

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I'm not calling for Prohm to be fired, but the situation each walked into was completely different. Fred walked into a dumpster fire. Prohm walked into Georges ******* niang.

And Prohm got Niang to average around 30 pts in an NCAA tourney.
 

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So all your posturing not withstanding with that failed attempt.......Steve Prohm IS really the reason you can't peddle your tickets? And with that sir.....you are either full of s***, or just full of s***. Take your pick.

I forgot that's who this poster was. What a clown.
 

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I dont Peddle my tickets, if you can go to a full home game stretch good for you. Attendance is down, the games i dont go to dont sell, and the offense is stagnant way too much. These are realities.

The offense was the 9th best in the country. It's not the programs fault you have no idea what you're watching.
 

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Exactly....and it worked out pretty well. I'll just never understand why Prohm didn't....I kept getting so mad because there was no double the moment he caught it. They don't have a bunch of snipers out there so its just plain stupid we didn't double.

While one guy was killing us we weren’t getting killed in the scheme of the game. The offensive drought was the killer. There wasn’t a need for drastic changes in the game plan midstream.
 

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This whole having to be a college coach to have an opinion about a college coach line of reasoning is dumb as hell. You don't need to be a college coach to know bad or good basketball or concerning or not concerning behavior
 
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This whole having to be a college coach to have an opinion about a college coach line of reasoning is dumb as hell. You don't need to be a college coach to know bad or good basketball or concerning or not concerning behavior

No one said people can’t have opinions. But if I’m a factory worker and I come on the internet ******** about NASA and how they are ******* up the space program with their ****** rockets and I’ve never made a rocket, never ridden in a rocket, never seen how they build the rocket are you going to put much weight in to my opinion?
 

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Small nitpick but I don't like this comparison. There are high major college basketball programs and mid to low major programs, and there are MILES of difference between the two. I don't think we should compare ourselves to 75% of college basketball programs.

About half the high major schools make the NCAA's, very similar to bowl selections. We should be in that group regularly.

Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of the percentages either but it was more for perspective. The number of teams in the B12 who make the tournament are similar to bowl games more often than not, though. A 500 conference team from the B12 and a 6 win football team will make their respective postseasons. The football team get's 1-2 cupcakes to get there. The OOc games against the cupcakes in basketball are glorified practice. You aren't getting credit for them if you win 5 conference games.
 

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No one said people can’t have opinions. But if I’m a factory worker and I come on the internet ******** about NASA and how they are ******* up the space program with their ****** rockets and I’ve never made a rocket, never ridden in a rocket, never seen how they build the rocket are you going to put much weight in to my opinion?
How many D1 coaches post on here?
 

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This whole having to be a college coach to have an opinion about a college coach line of reasoning is dumb as hell. You don't need to be a college coach to know bad or good basketball or concerning or not concerning behavior

No, but if you aren't a coach then you have to be able to look at actual facts and make a reasoned opinion, not one made out of your hurt little feelings.
 
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Exactly. Which is why I defer to Prohm knowing what is he is doing over “cydoosh69”’s opinion on the proper way to play basketball in the D1 level.

Opinion away but don’t act like I need to respect terrible and conjecture filled malarkey.
So if we know that there are none it seems like an unnecessary thing to constantly talk about. Attack the bad opinion instead of just saying we aren't in the top 1% of experts on something so we cant talk about it.
 
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Defense means securing rebounds, and once again, the team did not secure enough defensive rebounds. If you play "good defense" for 25 seconds and force a bad shot, and do not get the rebound (yes even with crazy bounces), then you did not successfully finish the defensive possession. Until this program puts 'rebounding' as its #1 emphasis/priority and sets it as THE cornerstone of the entire culture of the program, they will not take the next step. I have no doubt Iowa State can keep winning 20 games a year and get into the dance year after year. I also have no doubt that it will not be a significant threat to win the regular season conference title nor make a legitimate deep run until rebounding focus takes center stage. That's my opinion based on nothing but being a diehard fan and observer of college basketball for 25 years.
I'll somewhat agree with this. However, sometimes it's not the x's and o's, it's the personnel. And sometimes, it's one role type player that makes a difference.

Just pure speculation, but imagine this team with a healthy Solo, a JR year Hogue, or even Shakir Juiston, who they were close to getting.

And it's possibly an issue in the near future. If Solo isn't 100%, or isn't the guy that can consistently get rebounds, then it may be more of the same next year. It is on Prohm to find that type of guy, if he's not going to have hard nosed guards that crash the boards constantly.