*****The Super, Mega, Huge Big 12 Expansion Thread*****

[GoldenBear]

I'm gonna call out all the "fair weather fans" here. I helped park cars in the rain for the UNI game for 6 hours changed clothes in our van and tailgated for 3 hours. I've been to every home game the last 10 years. The cold, wind, snow, rain, tornado sleet. My motto has always been "Win or lose, we still booze!!". It kills me to see all the empty seats in November. I've sat in the same seat for the last 5 years and you know who the fair weather fans are. We just set a record for season tickets this. We everyone to show every home game all season. I've been ALL IN since I was in school here in 1985 and when I moved back here in 91!

Yep. Been to all, except I wasn't ALL IN until 98. Just was too stupid, to understand what the atmosphere at the Jack is on football weekend until then.

I will say again. We have another chance to be relevant. Not to the loyal ISU base, but the Nation. NOW is the time

 

[bosco]

Well, let's see. We handled the computer and peanut butter. Surely, we can handle this!

Sadly George Washington Carver was not attributed with the invention of peanut butter. He found 300 other uses but the person who is connected with the "invention" of Peanut Butter is Kellogg since he patented the process of making it.

 

[GoldenBear]

Sadly George Washington Carver was not attributed with the invention of peanut butter. He found 300 other uses but the person who is connected with the "invention" of Peanut Butter is Kellogg since he patented the process of making it.

Whatever! Thanks for pointing out the facts.

Just trying to rally a fan base. God forbid that my comment was the first "non fact" on this thread.

 

[Tre4ISU]

I'm gonna call out all the "fair weather fans" here. I helped park cars in the rain for the UNI game for 6 hours changed clothes in our van and tailgated for 3 hours. I've been to every home game the last 10 years. The cold, wind, snow, rain, tornado sleet. My motto has always been "Win or lose, we still booze!!". It kills me to see all the empty seats in November. I've sat in the same seat for the last 5 years and you know who the fair weather fans are. We just set a record for season tickets this. We everyone to show every home game all season. I've been ALL IN since I was in school here in 1985 and when I moved back here in 91!

I'm usually all for calling out fair weather fans but when you live in Ames, you have to realize it's a little different. I live three hours away so something that wouldn't necessarily keep me away from a game if I were in Ames (Harvest, work in general, etc) does. It sucks, but it is what it is. As far as strictly the weather (which I think was your intention) some people need to suck it up, especially if we are competitive.

 

[Boxerdaddy]

DanBeebe Fake Dan Beebe
by ChrisMWilliams
I might not be gone yet. I can't get anybody on the phone at all, so I can't confirm these cowardly media reports.

Awesome

 

[Judoka]

Won't ever argue with people on tough times. I don't think that is the majority of our so called fan base. We are notorius (Sp?) for not showing up in November because its too cold. I get the October thing. Harvest. But once crop out, no excuses! We will never be a unified fan base until we consistantly pack the jack, buy the $20 Clone Zone and get into it.

We have been presented with an opportunity with a window. (5yrs...whatever) NOW is the time

Clone Zone isn't even that much, it's like $30 or $40 for the entire season, and you get a lot. Live stream of the UNI game, unlimited replays of every single game (full and edited down to just the plays) and highlight reels, live radio of the pre-game/game/postgame, being able to watch everything from your phone, etc... As someone who doesn't make it back for every home game Clone Zone is a steal. So much content for so cheap.

And the thing is, the people posting on CF are more involved than the average fan. If people on here are to cheap to buy in to clone zone, how can we expect the casual fan to do so? I'd be pretty interested to know what the subscription numbers are for Clone Zone. I'm sure if we had enough people subscribing it would be upgraded to include even more features and high definition content.

 

[GoldenBear]

I'm usually all for calling out fair weather fans but when you live in Ames, you have to realize it's a little different. I live three hours away so something that wouldn't necessarily keep me away from a game if I were in Ames (Harvest, work in general, etc) does. It sucks, but it is what it is. As far as strictly the weather (which I think was your intention) some people need to suck it up, especially if we are competitive.

Exactly, not calling anybody out. Just trying to raise the bar. If we have seen anything in the last month, we need to raise OUR bar.

I know the media, our friends to the East, WANT us to be the red headed step child (no offense ). We don't have to be. That is our choice.

IMO now is the time we can separate us from all of that.

With a possible "reborn conference" GG and JP and our sports momentum. We must energize all of our naysayers

 

[CycloneJL]

DanBeebe Fake Dan Beebe
Direct Message to LaDainian Tomlinson: IDONT KNOW IF YOUER THE TCU AD BUT IF SO DYOU DJOULD GO AFR FAR FAEAWY FROM HRE
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DanBeebe Fake Dan Beebe
Direct Message to Brigham Young: YOU DONT WANT TO COME TO THE BIG 12 TRUSTME
1 minute ago

 

[CycloneJL]

Now, this is funny:


ChuckNeinas Chuck Neinas
Hey @DanBeebe could you be a dear and set the thermostat to 61 on the way out. Leave the bowl of Werthers.
2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

ChuckNeinas Chuck Neinas
Whats a Beebe? @DanBeebe
14 minutes ago

 

[bluestarcyclone]

ChuckNeinas Chuck Neinas
Hey @DanBeebe could you be a dear and set the thermostat to 61 on the way out. Leave the bowl of Werthers.

 

[CycloneJL]

More gold:


_ChuckNeinas Chuck Neinas
@DanBeebe , nevermind. I just got a call from ESPN about being the interim commish.... pic.twitter.com/48h07GU5
10 minutes ago

_ChuckNeinas Chuck Neinas
@ChuckNeinas You are a magnificent, handsome bastard.
13 minutes ago
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_ChuckNeinas Chuck Neinas
@DanBeebe , what the hell is going on? Why is Dodds outside my house right now holding up a jukebox playing Peter Gabriel?

 

[CycloneJL]

If its wrong to keep posting these Tweets, let me know. But @DanBeebe is on a roll


DanBeebe Fake Dan Beebe
CHUCK NAYNAY IS A TRAITIOR, HE DESRVES TO HAVE A TORTITO FILED ON HIM RIUGHT NOWWWWW
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply

DanBeebe Fake Dan Beebe
Direct Message to Craig James: IF CHUCK NAYNAY CALLS YOU DONT ANSWER OR ILL TELL EVBERYONE ABOUT THOSE FIVE DEAD HOOKERS
3 minutes ago

DanBeebe Fake Dan Beebe
Direct Message to Yao Ming: THE BIG TRWRLVE HATES HOUTON GO AWWAY
6 minutes ago

 

[InCytful]

I'm usually all for calling out fair weather fans but when you live in Ames, you have to realize it's a little different. I live three hours away so something that wouldn't necessarily keep me away from a game if I were in Ames (Harvest, work in general, etc) does. It sucks, but it is what it is. As far as strictly the weather (which I think was your intention) some people need to suck it up, especially if we are competitive.

I've driven 3 hours one way to games for 10 years now. I hear you, and will keep doing it as long as I can. Sat in some darn cold stadiums, and played my last game in band in the blizzard game vs Colorado in '91. Drove past tonado for Colorado game in '05. Most of the bad games I remember were against Colorado, weather wise, come to think of it...maybe they'll take it with them to the coast...

I've missed games for work, and I know people do for harvest. Plenty of kids, retired folk, veterans groups that could use those extra tickets if you can't sell them or give them to ISU fans...

 

[twojman]

Along those lines, does anyone think that Pitt might still be in the running? I know they haven't officially left the BE and can't for 27 months, but have applied for membership in ACC and been accepted. Is this truely a done deal or could they wiggle out of it and go somewhere else? (like an expanded B12)

Thinking the same thing...Pitt, L'ville and West Va would be great for this conference.

 

[CONEClone]

This conference realignment thing has been worth it just to get Fake Dan Beebe and now (Fake?) Chuck Neinas tweets.

 

[cyman05]

Running across some interesting reads...thought I'd post...

Colleges shameless in game of conference musical chairs – USATODAY.com

"This thing has been very unsettling for so many people," Big East Commissioner John Marinatto said Tuesday. "I don't think anyone who has been involved in higher education or intercollegiate athletics is very proud today of what's taken place over the last three weeks. I know nobody feels good about it. There's got to be a system, a mechanism, a protocol to do all this. … We should all be embarrassed about this."


What just might be the worst year ever in college football certainly has accelerated the process. Scandal has known no bounds, reaching from Southern California to Ohio State to Miami. Out of one of those institutions of higher learning and disgrace came the quote of the year — perhaps the quote of the century — in college sports.

"I'm just hoping the coach doesn't dismiss me," Ohio State President E. Gordon Gee said in March.

He thought he was making a joke when asked if he was considering firing Jim Tressel, the football coach who in fact was forced to leave less than three months later. Instead, he was giving us a blueprint for the future of college sports, where university presidents apparently have been tied up in the attic, while the football and men's basketball programs are running the university.

When college presidents start disappearing like this, people begin to notice.

"I still keep waiting for the presidents to set some standards, but they are not," said Donna Lopiano, president of Sports Management Resources and formerly CEO of the Women's Sports Foundation and women's athletics director at the University of Texas. "It's just 'follow the money.' They've lost their moral compass."

 

[cyman05]

SEC, ACC, Big East, Big 12 still have work to do – USATODAY.com

The Big East will look to add at least two members to replace Syracuse and Pittsburgh, which are headed to the Atlantic Coast Conference. The league plans to target Navy and Air Force, according to an official in the Big East who asked to remain anonymous given the sensitivity of the discussions. East Carolina formally applied to the Big East, but the Pirates aren't considered a primary candidate.

"Our schools basically went around the table and pledged to each other that they are committed to move forward together," Marinatto said.


One official in the Big East who requested anonymity said that was not an accurate assessment of the sentiment in the room. The official said league schools are committed to recruiting more schools but did not make any pledge to remaining in the league until it's clear what the league will look like.


The official also said four or five of the Big East schools are committed to keeping the league together, but the other two or three need to know where the league is headed before a firm commitment is made.

--------Big 12 info--------

With Texas A&M about to head to the SEC, Texas athletics director DeLoss Dodds said a Big 12 expansion committee on which he sits will resume its search for one or more replacements.

"We could do it with nine (schools). I'm a 10-team guy," Dodds said. "If the majority want to go to 12, we're amenable to that, but … I think the majority will stay with 10."

-----Beebe-----

"If there have been issues about my leadership," Beebe said. "I trust that the board will raise those with me and give me the consideration to address them."


Asked if he felt his job were in peril, he said, "These are very challenging jobs, and I think I've had one of the most challenging jobs in terms of an effort to try to stabilize a conference that has always had some instability. I think we're all at risk in this business, but it's part of what I signed on for, and I'm certainly willing to accept it. At the end of the day, the main thing is that this conference survives."

 

[cyman05]

Dodds comment on expansion from another article...

Big 12, Big East start picking up pieces - seattlepi.com

"It's about quality, not quantity," Dodds said. "In my mind, 10 is the perfect conference. You have a clear path to the national championship game without stumbling in a (conference) championship game."

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[stateofmind]

Thanks for bringing this back on track. Calling out fans to buy tickets are for other threads.

 

[cyman05]

I wonder if the 5-6 year commitment thing we heard about was possibly the conference keeping TV revenues for 5-6 years if you jump to another conference...



Big 12 is the conference that refuses to die | NewsOK.com



Multiple sources say Texas seems willing to compromise a bit. Nothing like the Pac-12 asked. The Pac-12 wanted its conference network to swallow up BevoTV, and if UT had gone for that, it would be the Pac-16 today.


But the Pacific crowd wasn't crazy about just OU and OSU, and OU and OSU weren't crazy about a Pac-14, and so here we sit, with this old cat that you can't kill.


If Texas capitulates on a few items, if all the league members sign away in blood their revenue rights, which means the Big 12 retains your money even if you jump leagues, then the groundhog is gone.

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