The NBA is Boring!

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I guess this is the explanation.


Just have an east vs west or even captain's who pick. This is just unnecessary.
 

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This is probably need a new thread, but ALL sports are probably at the best talent level now. ALL technology, nutrition, meds, know the body, etc make into athletes machines. Think of the rule changes of NFL with protective. I was looking at other athletes for track and field. Out of 64 men events, 56 (87.5%) records break after the year 2000, and the all other 8 events were over 1990.

What could imagine in a huge regulation rules, so let's basketball. I can't imagine it was like to live at the time they introduce the 3 point line. Or the time clock! That's was f'n huge. What else could be different? The rim have a smaller circumference? What about the dimension of the court, longer or wider? What if their offsides rule (like more hockey, not soccer)? Limit substitutions?
Why can't "more talented" athletes [which you refer to as machines] play the same number of games & remain as healthy as those of yesteryear? Why shorten the season then?
 
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Why can't "more talented" athletes [which you refer to as machines] play the same number of games & remain as healthy as those of yesteryear? Why shorten the season then?

Shortening the season has more to do with making individual regular season games matter more than player health, I think. The people complaining about stars sitting are overreacting and probably haven’t seen a game in a decade — the league has cracked down on that practice so it doesn’t happen as much as it maybe used to.

I think getting rid of the corner 3 is probably a necessity at this point, if not getting rid of the 3 point line entirely. With the number of possessions in an NBA game due to both the short shot clock and the speed of players, and how good shooting has gotten, rolling the dice on a 3 point shot makes more sense than a lot of other plays. On average most teams will shoot better than 33%, and that’s all you need to make it worth it.

If you want less focus on distance shooting, you either need to make it worth fewer points, make it harder to earn, or reduce the number of possessions in a game so that the shot choice matters more. Maybe that’s part of the reason the commissioner suggested shortening quarters to 10 minutes from 12.
 

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If you watched the worst team in the league 30 years ago it didn't look like basketball either. Mix in a Boston game ffs. Tell me they don't play team ball. OKC with the big 3 several years ago was the funnest NBA team I've ever watched.

The bulls are in the playoff playin if the season ended today. Far from the worst in the league.
 

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The commissioners office is always looking at that. We ended up with the Pistons mini run in the mid 2000s that was absolute garbage basketball, they changed the rules to allow more movement, and offense exploded.

There are always ebbs and flows.

What rule changes are you referring to?
 

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I don’t watch much regular season NBA, except checking box scores of our Cyclones in the League. If Pacers are in playoffs, then I watch.
 

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The talent level is at its highest ever yet they need to shorten the length of the season because players now cannot weather an 81 or 82 game-season. Doesn't make sense to me.
Why can’t pitchers throw complete games every start in baseball anymore. Why are there more injuries in football nowadays versus the 1970s despite more rules to protect players.

That said, there are some very soft NBA players. I’ll agree with that.

And as has already been mentioned, reducing the number games increases the importance and intensity of each game. Injury prevention would be a secondary reason
 
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NHL plays just as many games, but your average Tuesday night regular season hockey game is so much better entertainment wise than it's NBA counterpart that night for the vast majority of games/matchups.
I really like hockey too, but I disagree with this. And if you think the NBA has a ratings problem, don’t look at the NHL’s.

NHL is like the NBA where the sport ramps up its intensity big time when the playoffs start.
 
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Preferring college over pro basketball because you like shooting is like a thirsty man chosing a glass of sand over a glass of water.

If it’s not Cyclones I can barely watch a lot of college games because the shooting is so laughable vs pros. FT, mid range and 3.
I agree completely with you offensively but I like watching guys play tough intense defense too which you definitely do not get in the NBA. I also just don't like the atmosphere during NBA games, music/noise playing during the game, can't hear the crowd at all etc.

All of this is about regular season games fwiw, I'll flip on playoff games and be perfectly entertained on a may/June evening when there's nothing else on besides baseball.
 

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I really like hockey too, but I disagree with this. And if you think the NBA has a ratings problem, don’t look at the NHL’s.

NHL is like the NBA where the sport ramps up its intensity big time when the playoffs start.
I didn't say anything whatsoever about ratings. Idc about ratings.

I love the EPL & the World Cup, but it's not just because of ratings (even though it's ratings are WAY higher than NFL or any sport the USA produces.)

Regular season NBA is boring to watch. Regular season NHL isn't (imo). Despite both playing the same amount of games.

I agree with you both NHL & NBA ramp up in the playoffs.
 

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I’m a big football fan but the NFL is boring. It’s just no fun seeing the best athletes In the world make unbelievable play after play. I’d much rather watch a bunch of amateurs fiddle around and **** up.

I used to be that way but I watched more NFL this year because of Big Ten and SEC becoming pure evil trying to destroy Iowa State and I actually liked it.

I didn’t really watch the Super Bowl because I had been pulling for Bills and Detroit but I liked the rest of the playoffs a lot.

I was never an NFL fan mostly because I just can’t devote entire weekend to football. Now that most major network college football is a product dedicated to destroying ISU, I’ll only watch ISU and a couple nfl games where two years ago I’d watch 3-4 college games and 0 NFL games other than maybe tuning in if a Cuclone had a big game.
 

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I agree completely with you offensively but I like watching guys play tough intense defense too which you definitely do not get in the NBA. I also just don't like the atmosphere during NBA games, music/noise playing during the game, can't hear the crowd at all etc.

All of this is about regular season games fwiw, I'll flip on playoff games and be perfectly entertained on a may/June evening when there's nothing else on besides baseball.

The defense in playoff games is better than NCAA. If Houston had proper officiating that wasn’t peeing their pants afraid of Sampson they couldn’t play like that.

In the regular season guys need to at least be competent defensively unless they’re an elite scorer. Georges became a much better defender in his first few years in the nba.

Why can’t pitchers throw complete games every start in baseball anymore. Why are there more injuries in football nowadays versus the 1970s despite more rules to protect players.

That said, there are some very soft NBA players. I’ll agree with that.

And as has already been mentioned, reducing the number games increases the importance and intensity of each game. Injury prevention would be a secondary reason

NBA got rid of flopping pretty quickly. They also got rid of the offensive player kicking out the leg to draw a foul better than ncaa did. There are some major advantages to officiating 32 teams vs 370.
 
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Shortening the season has more to do with making individual regular season games matter more than player health, I think. The people complaining about stars sitting are overreacting and probably haven’t seen a game in a decade — the league has cracked down on that practice so it doesn’t happen as much as it maybe used to.

I think getting rid of the corner 3 is probably a necessity at this point, if not getting rid of the 3 point line entirely. With the number of possessions in an NBA game due to both the short shot clock and the speed of players, and how good shooting has gotten, rolling the dice on a 3 point shot makes more sense than a lot of other plays. On average most teams will shoot better than 33%, and that’s all you need to make it worth it.

If you want less focus on distance shooting, you either need to make it worth fewer points, make it harder to earn, or reduce the number of possessions in a game so that the shot choice matters more. Maybe that’s part of the reason the commissioner suggested shortening quarters to 10 minutes from 12.

You wouldn’t know it by his ISU days, but Haliburton shoots the three so much better than any player who ever played at Hilton including opponents. When you factor in range and difficulty, it’s nuts. If he’s open with time it’s a layup. Georges isn’t quite that insane but also way better than he was in college which is why he’s gonna be a 10 year vet.
 

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