The magic is gone

[BryceC]

No one was calling it a fan problem.

My point is, from 2000-2001, when ISU won 36 straight home games and won the Big 12 going away each year, was Hilton magic in effect? We also had 10k tickets sold per game for one of those years. So if Hilton Magic was happening, why was the stadium a minimum 1/3 empty for that time?

 

[jcisuclones]

My point is, from 2000-2001, when ISU won 36 straight home games and won the Big 12 going away each year, was Hilton magic in effect? We also had 10k tickets sold per game for one of those years. So if Hilton Magic was happening, why was the stadium a minimum 1/3 empty for that time?

Remember who our AD was during that time? He sure knew how to get fans excited about buying tickets...

 

[riceville98]

Have you all forgotten that we just beat a ranked team on Sunday?

 

[CycloneErik]

My point is, from 2000-2001, when ISU won 36 straight home games and won the Big 12 going away each year, was Hilton magic in effect? We also had 10k tickets sold per game for one of those years. So if Hilton Magic was happening, why was the stadium a minimum 1/3 empty for that time?

Because it has nothing to do with the fans? That's just PR to sell tickets.

The Magic happens when talented teams with good coaching get big wins. The place gets loud and crazy, but it's all about players and coaching, not # of tickets sold.

 

[UnCytely]

This is what gets me. We didn't just lose at home. We got DESTROYED at home. I would have been basically OK with a close loss at home. As people have pointed out, home losses happen, even to teams like Kentucky or Duke. But the game was never really close, from the opening tip-off. Sure, there was that point where we cut the lead to single-digits, but only a minute or two later Iowa was back up to 22 points ahead.

People point out "Kentucky and Duke both lost at home." Sure, but how long has it been since Kentucky or Duke got DESTROYED at home? Has that ever happened? Even in that disaster year in which Coach K briefly retired and Duke finished last in their conference, did they suffer a humiliating defeat at home?*

*I just checked, and Duke's worst at-home defeat in the Coach K era is in 2009 to North Carolina. But since Duke actually LED by 8 points at halftime in that game, I can't call that a "humiliating defeat" at home like last night's game was. As for Kentucky, their worst home loss was 14 points to a team called Gardner-Webb in 2007.

 

[awd4cy]

Have you all forgotten that we just beat a ranked team on Sunday?

What people haven’t forgotten is that we have 4 non conference losses and likely 5 after we play at Auburn in January.

 

[LincolnWay187]

I wouldn't mind getting a different head coach in a year or two. We arent exactly lighting it up in basketball. I dont like our offense the past couple years.

 

[SpokaneCY]

Prohm now 12-11 against power conference opponents in Hilton since the start of the 17-18 season not to mention the embarrassing UW-Milwaukee loss. He's done it, he's killed the Magic.

A few years ago there were posts that the magic died because old white guys got the good seats and never stood the entire game and cheered.

 

[jcisuclones]

A few years ago there were posts that the magic died because old white guys got the good seats and never stood the entire game and cheered.

People at Kentucky complain about old rich donors making Rupp a morgue as well. But guess what, they defend their home court.

 

[SpokaneCY]

We would always have halftime shows under Fred... just saying..

I miss the unicycle guy from the early 80s... Benson Buick or something? Maybe it was Pinkley Taurus?

 

[SpokaneCY]

People at Kentucky complain about old rich donors making Rupp a morgue as well. But guess what, they defend their home court.

We should pay our players more! Not arguing for or against that BTW...

 

[SpokaneCY]

That's awful. It really does feel like literally anyone can walk into Hilton and win. Top tier programs don't let that happen

WERE we ever a top tier program? That would mean we've consistently won conference championships and gone deep in the tourney. I won't google it but I'm thinking every page will say we've never, ever done that. LE shared a league title but he was lightning in a bottle and nothing else.

 

[CoKane]

If Niang doesn't break his foot, we were easily the hottest team in the country and would have had a very real shot at the championship that year.

At worst I think we beat UConn and go to the Elite 8. Even if we lose to Michigan State in the next round Id take that. Elite 8s aren't easy to come by

 

[CoKane]

WERE we ever a top tier program? That would mean we've consistently won conference championships and gone deep in the tourney. I won't google it but I'm thinking every page will say we've never, ever done that. LE shared a league title but he was lightning in a bottle and nothing else.

Over a stretch of 3 years we were had 2 3 seeds and a 4 seed in the tournament. Feels like for at least a little bit the answer was yes. When I say top tier I don't mean become a blue blood. Just one of the top 10-15 teams in CBB current day.

 

[SpokaneCY]

Have Duke and Kentucky been beat badly at home several times a season?

There are 350 D1 basketball programs. You've used 2 of the ALL TIME greatest programs to make a point.

 

[CoKane]

Have you all forgotten that we just beat a ranked team on Sunday?

A ranked team that shot like **** for long enough to let us stay in it, had one of it's best players get hurt, and one that we just played the week before so scouting was a lot easier

 

[SpokaneCY]

Over a stretch of 3 years we were had 2 3 seeds and a 4 seed in the tournament. Feels like for at least a little bit the answer was yes. When I say top tier I don't mean become a blue blood. Just one of the top 10-15 teams in CBB current day.

Seeds translated to what? No banners. No league titles. Just a lot of buzz because the media liked Fred.

Seriously I think we've over-estimated our program by quite a bit.

 

[madguy30]

There are 350 D1 basketball programs. You've used 2 of the ALL TIME greatest programs to make a point.

That wasn't the point.

Do consistent NCAA tournament qualifying programs get beat badly at home on a semi-regular basis?

Do you think ISU has had recent trends of really bad basketball?

 

[cykick]

Prohm now 12-11 against power conference opponents in Hilton since the start of the 17-18 season not to mention the embarrassing UW-Milwaukee loss. He's done it, he's killed the Magic.

Typical over reaction to a emotional game.. The Magic is there... the Magic is the fan base sticking together... the Magic is not acting a fool and over reacting to a loss. The Magic is staying true to your colors and team... that's the magic.. and it will always be ISU

 

[SpokaneCY]

If you think Hilton Magic was just people showing up to a game you’re so wrong. Hilton Magic was being favored in nearly every home game. Hilton Magic was knowing you could beat anyone. Hilton Magic was losing 1 or 2 home games a year and even being disappointed in that.

And Hilton Magic meant going 2-10 on the road.