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Steve Patterson fired (Texas AD)

Jeremy said:
Strong is very safe for another year. The ONLY way he is in jeopardy is if they win 3-4 games and lose to bottom-dwellers like Kansas and Iowa State. The donors there know the process he's going through and while I think his leash has always been a bit shorter than people originally said (some treated him like Harbaugh's return to MI), he has 3 years minimum.
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I don't know. He wasn't an overly popular choice with some boosters when he was hired...
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...-calls-charlie-strong-hire-a-kick-in-the-face

I would imagine there are some who view Strong as Patterson's man and welcome the chance to reset.
 
Cyclonick182 said:
Guys like that are natural born coaches and leaders. The belief that only those schools could get the job done for them I think is a little silly. Anyone that rises up to win their first national title had to start somewhere. Does it increase odds? Sure. But money is clearly playing a large role in it because those schools have the financial resources too.
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It's not silly at all. Go count how many schools actually win national titles in basketball and football. It's a very select few.
 
Charlie Strong is next, and I think we would be wise to take a look at him as our next coach, should CPR be released at the conclusion of this year.
 
Charlie is now on the hoit seat. His brand of discipline does not bode well for the texas recruits.
 
CycloneErik said:
It's not silly at all. Go count how many schools actually win national titles in basketball and football. It's a very select few.
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Actually if you take a look, there are 58(give or take 1 or 2 by counting) that have either won a share of or the national title outright in football since they started keeping track in 1869. Sure there have been shifts in power, with the rise and fall of the likes of UCLA in basketball and Nebraska in football, but to say its a select few is ignoring the big picture. Nobody said it was EASY to become a have in a world of have nots, but the data is there to show its not impossible either.
 
Cyclonick182 said:
Actually if you take a look, there are 58(give or take 1 or 2 by counting) that have either won a share of or the national title outright in football since they started keeping track in 1869. Sure there have been shifts in power, with the rise and fall of the likes of UCLA in basketball and Nebraska in football, but to say its a select few is ignoring the big picture. Nobody said it was EASY to become a have in a world of have nots, but the data is there to show its not impossible either.
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But in the long run we're all dead. Coaches are looking at the here, now and near future, and when doing that, there is a very small number of teams who will realistically be in contention to win the national title in the next few year, which is what I'd say all coaches care about.
 
surly said:
George Schroeder ‏@GeorgeSchroeder 12m12 minutes ago
Names: Greg Byrne (AZ), John Currie (K-State), Chris Del Conte (TCU), Jeff Long (Arkansas) … and oh yeah, remember Oliver Luck (NCAA).

Pretty remarkable, but if Currie goes to UT, which wouldn't surprise me a tad, that would make four K-Staters running 10 programs - UT, K-State, Ku and TTech.
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I don't think this would in any way hurt the chances of the Big 12's survival, with so many KSU men in place.
 
everybody on here is funny.

If Strong/Texas loses to Iowa State.....he will may be fired before he gets out of the locker room. Certainly, he will be fired at the end of the regular season regardless of the end results. It is a Bo Pelini Situation on steroids. Texas boosters wanted Sabin......did not get them. They need scalps now in the interim.
I always felt the turning point for Mack Brown was losing to us. It was a slow death after that. You do NOT lose to Iowa State. Ask Barry Switzer.
Strong could be very successful in the long term....but Texas will not accept that. That is why I think he would be great at ISU. Outside of Texas and maybe 5 other programs.....a coach has 4 years to show his salt. We got Liberty Bowl.
 
Cyclonick182 said:
Actually if you take a look, there are 58(give or take 1 or 2 by counting) that have either won a share of or the national title outright in football since they started keeping track in 1869. Sure there have been shifts in power, with the rise and fall of the likes of UCLA in basketball and Nebraska in football, but to say its a select few is ignoring the big picture. Nobody said it was EASY to become a have in a world of have nots, but the data is there to show its not impossible either.
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Only 9 teams that hadn't previously won a national championship have won one in the last 60 years and 0 new teams in the last 19 years. The last school to have won a national championship that hadn't before was Florida in 1996. Until 1996 the longest stretch without a new champion was 10 years between Nebraska's first championship in 1970 and Clemson's only championship in 1980. Prior to that, it was somewhat regular for schools to be newly crowned every few years.

Meanwhile, in the last 30 years, 27 news teams have started playing D1 football which makes it statistically harder to rise out of the fray into the national championship circle. The likelihood of becoming a new national champion has been trending down for almost 80 years and the statistics would indicate that if you haven't won a championship in football by now then it probably won't happen or you will need a landscape shifting event to re-balance the odds before you will have another chance.
 
Cyclonick182 said:
Actually if you take a look, there are 58(give or take 1 or 2 by counting) that have either won a share of or the national title outright in football since they started keeping track in 1869. Sure there have been shifts in power, with the rise and fall of the likes of UCLA in basketball and Nebraska in football, but to say its a select few is ignoring the big picture. Nobody said it was EASY to become a have in a world of have nots, but the data is there to show its not impossible either.
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Check the last 50-60 years. It's only a couple dozen (roughly).
 
CycloneErik said:
Check the last 50-60 years. It's only a couple dozen (roughly).
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While I agree with your overall premise, a couple dozen out of 65 power 5 conference teams is pretty good distribution. And while the population eligible to win a national championship was technically larger than 65 until recently, for all intents and purposes, it wasn't going to happen.
 
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