Sports Betting Question

Acylum

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How can a sportsbook just decide they aren’t going to pay a bet? There isn’t much pertinent info given.

 
How can a sportsbook just decide they aren’t going to pay a bet? There isn’t much pertinent info given.


Didn't watch the video and I don't know if the same one, but this might be the one where the winner used a second party site to make the bet which is a no-no. When he won he let it slip on a social media video that he did that. The casino saw the posting and aren't going to pay.
 
If it was a situation where he wasnt legal gambling age and crossed state lines to gamble, then that sort of makes sense.

But, ultimately i would guess Caesars will try and settle for a lesser amount, although i have very little legal knowledge here.

However, the disguises thing is weird


Here is an updated article as well. I enjoyed the paragraph about the Iowa Gambling officials reviewing the case. He's not an athlete at any major in-state universities, so he has a really good chance of not getting completely ******
 
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I don't know the laws involved, but why was the dude wearing disguises and structuring his bets? Seems like he knew he was doing something he shouldn't be doing.
 
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I don't know the laws involved, but why was the dude wearing disguises and structuring his bets? Seems like he knew he was doing something he shouldn't be doing.
What does “structuring bets” mean? I don’t do much betting.
 
What does “structuring bets” mean? I don’t do much betting.

The casino's have limits on how much you can bet on any one bet without using one of their cashiers. The reason he didn't want to use the cashier was because some casino's limit how much professional betters can bet with them.

The Casinos were well within their rights to cancel his bets and ban him. The issue at hand here is whether them waiting to see if the bets won or lost before canceling them legally binds them to accept the result of the bet. I think it does but I'm no attorney.
 
I don't know the laws involved, but why was the dude wearing disguises and structuring his bets? Seems like he knew he was doing something he shouldn't be doing.
I've read up somewhat on this guy, and he never really tells why he had to go place bets via Kiosk and not cashier, why he's not just using the mobile app that you see advertised on every commercial break of any sporting event, or many other pertinent details. But, from some experience - shortly after mobile sports betting apps became legal in Iowa, roommate was doing well betting college football, nothing more than like $500/game wins, but a certain sportsbook app capped/limited all his football bets to $50, and would refuse multiple bets on same game. Probably what happened to this guy, did real well placing bets via app, got capped to a bare minimum bet structure, or outright banned from placing bets via a certain app or apps, and thus had to physically go to casinos to place bets. With the apparent size of bets he was placing, if he were to go to a cashier and make the wagers, they would likely want to ID him and review his wagering activity, or noticehim placing numerous lower value bets on the same series of outcomes. But by using the kiosks, you don't have to show ID or a players card, and are basically placing wagers anonymously. And he probably found a sweet spot where he could wager a certain dollar amount and not exceed the Kiosk threshold for review by a physical person before accepting a wager. Then proceed to repeatedly place the same wagers to get more money on whatever he thought he had an insight or advantage on.
 
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I've read up somewhat on this guy, and he never really tells why he had to go place bets via Kiosk and not cashier, why he's not just using the mobile app that you see advertised on every commercial break of any sporting event, or many other pertinent details. But, from some experience - shortly after mobile sports betting apps became legal in Iowa, roommate was doing well betting college football, nothing more than like $500/game wins, but a certain sportsbook app capped/limited all his football bets to $50, and would refuse multiple bets on same game. Probably what happened to this guy, did real well placing bets via app, got capped to a bare minimum bet structure, or outright banned from placing bets via a certain app or apps, and thus had to physically go to casinos to place bets. With the apparent size of bets he was placing, if he were to go to a cashier and make the wagers, they would likely want to ID him and review his wagering activity, or noticehim placing numerous lower value bets on the same series of outcomes. But by using the kiosks, you don't have to show ID or a players card, and are basically placing wagers anonymously. And he probably found a sweet spot where he could wager a certain dollar amount and not exceed the Kiosk threshold for review by a physical person before accepting a wager. Then proceed to repeatedly place the same wagers to get more money on whatever he thought he had an insight or advantage on.

At some point, if someone is doing that well in college betting the house has to assume they have some sort of insider knowledge. It’s easier to limit wager amounts than to investigate.
 
I ran into a similar issue and ended up using crypto casinos DE since they let you cash out without linking a bank account. It worked well because I could skip a lot of the ID and tax form stuff traditional sportsbooks ask for. Just make sure you’re comfortable using crypto and the risks that come with it.
 
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I’ve used a crypto sportsbook before when traveling, and it worked fine. The key thing is that it doesn’t care where you are, since you’re just using crypto and the platform itself isn’t tied to any specific country’s rules. Just make sure to research where the site is based and read reviews so you don’t accidentally pick something sketchy.
 
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