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Source of hatred towards the Hawks

I like to think that all the friends I have that go to Iowa are the "good" fans, and that everyone else is ignorant, but even I get into arguments with them. My hatred for Iowa started after the first Iowa/ISU game I witnessed through the cardinal and gold point of view in 2004, and has been growing ever since.

After living in Iowa City for 5 years, I never realized how much Hawkeye propaganda is shoved down your throat there until I came back after my first year at ISU.

For example, last summer working at the Coralville HyVee, as the football season approached, the managers switched out the normal plastic bags with neon-yellow plastic bags that bore the 2006 football schedule. That, the large section they dedicated to Hawkeye apparel, and the constant reminder over the intercom that football season was slowly approaching (finished off with a cheesy "Goooooo HAWKS!") made me long for the many fall mornings and afternoons I would be spending tailgating by Jack Trice Stadium to prepare cheering on the Cyclones.

Luckily, my sister now goes to UNI, and my parents are apathetic towards Iowa atheltics, so I don't have to hear it constantly when I go home. Outside the home is another story...
 
ISUFan22 said:
Grew up an Iowa fan...went to ISU...converted. Funny story with that one, but I'm to lazy to tell it.

I don't hate Iowa or their fans. I dislike some of their fans - yet each fan base has their idiots/pricks.

I root against Iowa when they're facing ISU of course. Other than that, sometimes I root for 'em, sometimes against 'em and most of the time - I don't care one way or the other.
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Same here. Jim Zabel made me switch - he was a Loudmouth from Beyond.
 
I actually parted ways with my best friend from high school because of the rivalry. Her family was entirely hawk fans just like mine but she chose to go to UofI because she apparently couldn't think for herself. Anyway, before we went to college I bought her an ISU shirt so she could wear it when she came to visit. She refused saying "my family would give me so much s*** for that I couldn't handle it." She continued to bash ISU to my face until I called the friendship quits sometime my soph. year.

That's my summary of hawk fans, such a-holes that they would heckle someone from their own family for wearing ISU colors.
 
Sounds like a pretty silly reason to lose a friend. Although I do know the feeling. There have been quite a few times that I have not wanted to talk to my Hawk friends, but b/c 90% of my friends are Hawks it is tough.
 
my top ten reasons...
1. Jim Zabel
2. Arrogance here in SE Iowa
3. The habits of the students and alumni (particularly there binge drinking)
4. Jim Zabel
5. Their Fight Song
6. Jim Zabel
7. All the @$$hole-bandwagoners in my hometown
8. Jim Zabel
9. Their students who are either too rich to care, or too dumb to be sober enough to
10. Jim Zabel



*Helluva 500th post, eh?*
 
clone33 said:
my top ten reasons...
1. Jim Zabel
2. Arrogance here in SE Iowa
3. The habits of the students and alumni (particularly there binge drinking)
4. Jim Zabel
5. Their Fight Song
6. Jim Zabel
7. All the @$$hole-bandwagoners in my hometown
8. Jim Zabel
9. Their students who are either too rich to care, or too dumb to be sober enough to
10. Jim Zabel



*Helluva 500th post, eh?*
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LOL, you should probably add Jim Zabel to you list :rofl8yi:
 
I worked in the Athletic department during my college days, every time we had to face the ace holes from accross the state I had to witness thier athletic department's arrogance firsthand. I didn't really hate that school until my days at ISU but I quickly learned that they were not going to ever respect us in any way, soo it was easy to dislike them. I specifically remember the students that were attending ISU but were still loyal to EIU. They may be the most beligerant of the group.

I did get back at the hawks once in a small way when my son, 4 yrs old at the time, saw a squak coach in his black and yellow jacket with the fred flintstone's head sideways on it, and my son runs up to him and says, "Yucky hawkeyes, right?" the poor guy had no idea what to say as my boy ran back over to me yelling, "Dad, look yucky hawkeye, yucky hawkeye." He has since gotten more discrete in his disdain for black and yellow, but he and I are both Cardinal and Gold through and through.

Always happy when they lose and will never root for them. I'll let this end now before it regresses into an all out rant.
 
Clones85' said:
Sounds like a pretty silly reason to lose a friend. Although I do know the feeling. There have been quite a few times that I have not wanted to talk to my Hawk friends, but b/c 90% of my friends are Hawks it is tough.
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Yeah, you would think so, but when someone who was your best friend is suddenly bashing you and your school all the time, it's a bit much. Everytime I would do something stupid it was "it's ok, you chose to go to ISU too."

Oh! And here's something else to add...went to visit my "friend" and her bro in Iowa City after my freshman year at ISU. I, of course, had to wear some 'Clone gear:wink0st: . Nothing was said the entire time by anyone and I was shocked. Just as we getting into the car to leave her bro says "see you guys, and oh by the way, if you ever come around me in ISU gear again I'll punch you in the face." He was 25, I was 18...I'm sure he wouldn't actually place harm on someone for wearing ISU gear but it was pretty cool I must say.
 
mjones34 said:
Grew up in Ames....its in my blood
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Amen to that. I remember watching mbb games on tv as a kid and just loving it. Some of my early memories are watching them on a small black and white tv that was up in the attic. I was too young to know the team/ players but it just kinda stuck in my system every since.
As I got older I got tired of hearing about the Hawks all the time. Things just grew from then on.
 
Cydkar said:
I grew up a Hawk fan in Cedar Rapids. I went to ISU and somewhere between soph and junior year I began to hate Iowa. I recieved a complete lack of respect for going to ISU back home so decided I would never respect them either.

Just to let you in on a little secret, Hawk fans have been acting that way forever. For as little as Iowa has EVER accomplished on a national scale, they perceive themselves at a level just below an Ohio State, Michigan, etc. Not an elite program, but right there in that second tier.

There are some nice Iowa fans, who are realistic, but there is a reason that their fanbase is among the most hated in the Big 10. I will NEVER root for the Hawks, because even the mediocre successes become grander than they actually are.

And before the moral compass comes on, and talks about our lack of success as well, this is CYCLONE FANATIC. Screw Iowa, they get enough love in this state, unfortunately, I have seen them given love on here.
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I've loved the Cyclones since I could remember. And during the late 60s I only vaguely remember there even BEING a team in Iowa ******. The only thing I recall is wondering if EIU could win a game that year. And if not, would they score on an opponent that year. They were that bad.

And then Hayden Fry and Lute Olsen came to town, and then suddenly EVERYONE was an Iowa fan, and were claiming that they had been all along. Especially the "tavern crowd".

I have never liked the schmuckeyes. But I truly despise the majority of their fanbase.

It probably is based on the fact that I'm not a very good "follower". I know and like ISU and its environs. I do not understand how someone can blindly follow something they only see as a symbol. Like the majority of schmuckeye fans. They cheer because EIU is relatively successful. I guess they need that in their lives.
 
I lived with my dad while he was a student at Iowa State. During his junior and senior years, we lived in Pammel Court. I remember liking it because he liked it so much and it always put him in a great mood...he used to get so loud and passionate, it made an impression on me. Eventually what began as an allegiance to my father's passion became an allegiance and passion for ISU. By age 6, it was over...I was hooked!

Along with my allegiance to the 'Clones, a sheer hatred came along with it naturally. Especially Doug Moe and Kris Kingsbury....those guys suck something fierce. As far as I'm concerned, they can stick lit firecrackers up their a$$es.
 
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ISUFan22 said:
Grew up an Iowa fan...went to ISU...converted. Funny story with that one, but I'm to lazy to tell it.

I don't hate Iowa or their fans. I dislike some of their fans - yet each fan base has their idiots/pricks.

I root against Iowa when they're facing ISU of course. Other than that, sometimes I root for 'em, sometimes against 'em and most of the time - I don't care one way or the other.
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Much the same here, despite the fact my father graduated from ISU, he never really picked a team, he just rooted for the state schools in iowa in general, but due to the fact we lived in Muscatine, he took me to a lot of iowa games, so as a very young kid I was a hawk fan. But once I got into the middle school/early high school range I became a huge fan of troy davis and then seneca wallace as well as tinsley and fizer and basically became a Cyclone from then on along with hometown friends Nick & Nate Frere (who are also Ohio State fans because they are originally from Coshocton, Ohio...and if they were good enough to play there, I guarantee they would've been Buckeyes) as well as TE Ben Barkema whose brother CJ played football at iowa.

I am a guy who always wants to be on a certain team's side, I cannot just root in generality like my dad did, so I chose ISU. My first tailgating experience at an ISU football CEMENTED me as a Cyclone, the atmosphere is just amazing. I like to root for UNI as well cuz I'm here in CF (but they are a distant 2nd to The Iowa State University), which my mother always wonders why they aren't my favorite...but i do respect the u of i, altho they are often extremely overrated on the national stage in football, and they have some REALLY bad fans (of course not all of them tho, some just give them a bad name)
 
I enjoyed watching hawkeye basketball while I was growing up (they were the only thing on TV and had some good players...Ronnie Lester, Vince Brookins, Kevin Boyle, etc.). I would say I was a "casual fan".

Once I decided to attend ISU for academic reasons I gave my total undying loyalty to ISU and iowa became "the dark side".

My total hatred of iowa was sealed at an ISU/iowa basketball game in Iowa City. I was on Pep Council and they gave me a seat behind the hawkeye bench. I was obviously dressed in Cardinal and Gold and just as obviously I was cheering vocally for my Cyclones as they were beating up on the hawkeyes. An iowa "official" came over to me and told me that I had two choices...quit cheering for the Cyclones or leave the arena. I decided to stay in the arena but as the game closed (and ISU won) I went nuts right behind the hawkeye bench.

By the way...a good response to the Moo U stuff is "agriculture is better than no culture!".
 
cyclone#1 said:
By the way...a good response to the Moo U stuff is "agriculture is better than no culture!".
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NICE!

I grew up a Hawk fan, but when I came to ISU in 92, I burned all those clothes. I would have to say it is all the Fans, and especially the fans that have never been to not only EUI, but any college! How can they be so loyal to a school that they have never been to!
 
herbiedoobie said:
I've loved the Cyclones since I could remember. And during the late 60s I only vaguely remember there even BEING a team in Iowa ******. The only thing I recall is wondering if EIU could win a game that year. And if not, would they score on an opponent that year. They were that bad.

And then Hayden Fry and Lute Olsen came to town, and then suddenly EVERYONE was an Iowa fan, and were claiming that they had been all along. Especially the "tavern crowd".

I have never liked the schmuckeyes. But I truly despise the majority of their fanbase.

It probably is based on the fact that I'm not a very good "follower". I know and like ISU and its environs. I do not understand how someone can blindly follow something they only see as a symbol. Like the majority of schmuckeye fans. They cheer because EIU is relatively successful. I guess they need that in their lives.
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this post was DEAD ON!!! I have met COUNTLESS "hawk" fans here in eastern iowa who have no attachment to the university and MANY who have NEVER EVEN BEEN TO AN ATHLETIC EVENT!!!! How ridiculous is that? It's nothing but a symbol to them...outside of the smaller "die hard hawk" fanbase, i am baffled by the lack of sports knowledge by the rest of the "fans" of iowa for the rival Cyclones and even THEIR OWN TEAM!

The ESPN Sportsnation polls have them getting voted as some of the worst fans in the little 11 every year for a reason.
 
I don't hate the hawks. I get a little annoyed when co-workers dog me about ISU sometimes, but it doesn't bother me. It's all in good fun most of the time.
 
I actually grew up a hawkeye fan in SE Iowa. In fact, my mother used to sew me clothes when I was younger, and she especially thought the hawkeye patterns at wal-mart were cute. So here I am, like 9 years old, not knowing any better, going to school and walking up to my friends, "hey, do you like my new outift my mom made me this weekend?" ...*punch*

Only as I got older did I realize how ridiculous I must have looked in homemade hawkeye gear. I may never forget my mother for the trauma that has caused.

Anyway, we moved to Boone in '92 and my dad went back to school to get his masters and we instantly became cyclone fans. Some of my fondest memories as a kid were going to cyclone basketball and football games as a kid. I soon realized, how comparitively, hawkeye fans were just so much more obnoxious campared to cyclone fans.

And now I sit today, having outgrown my homemade hawkeye clothes, as a proud cyclone fan who sits online while at work reading about our great school and athletic programs. Go Clones! :biggrin9gp:
 
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