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[AWOL2000]

Ignorant? Please. The reason most of them drop is to win. Most 8 man teams can field two 11 man teams and often have similar numbers to 11 man teams in class A.

You do realize 11 man teams in class A don't have many more kids than the 8 man teams especially by beds numbers which are both boys and girls!

I've watched 8 man teams run on the field with over 40 players and a couple overy 50. And bs on you can't play 11 man football with 30 kids.

Yes, if you are terrible and your kids have no tradition and ability to compete you are going to get beat up during the year in 11 man football.

That just proves my point. You drop to compete and win games and not to field teams. Strength of schedule matters. Ask any 8 man team barely making the beds cutoff.

The schools losing in 8 man and that have tiny enrollments may play 8 man now to field a team but they didn't go to 8 man for that reason.

It's a joke to suggest otherwise.

I'm sorry my experience in School Board meetings and public hearings in the communities of the two schools I was at (the 2nd as the AD) that made the decision isn't enough for you. I know the reason these two schools and communities chose to play 8 man. Winning was way down on the list of reasons to change. Did people ask "will we win more?" Sure they did. But they also knew dropping didn't ensure winning.

Student enrollment, player safety, travel expenses for the schools, all played much larger rolls than winning.

I'm sure that some schools may drop just to win, but I doubt that its the majority.

But you know your outside view of it is obviously more relevant than my first hand knowledge.

 

[D UP Clones]

I'm sorry my experience in School Board meetings and public hearings in the communities of the two schools I was at (the 2nd as the AD) that made the decision isn't enough for you. I know the reason these two schools and communities chose to play 8 man. Winning was way down on the list of reasons to change. Did people ask "will we win more?" Sure they did. But they also knew dropping didn't ensure winning.

Student enrollment, player safety, travel expenses for the schools, all played much larger rolls than winning.

I'm sure that some schools may drop just to win, but I doubt that its the majority.

But you know your outside view of it is obviously more relevant than my first hand knowledge.

Outside view? You always need to be careful about making assumptions. You know the saying.

I'll take my many years of coaching, school board meetings, and experience working with coaches and apply them to your claims and it's a joke.

There are no facts in your argument. Just opinion. I've watched a coach make the same arguments you are making and I didn't believe it for a second. I'm sure they all convince themselves that it's not about winning. Its only not about winning when they can't win.

8 man was only considered when they couldn't make the playoffs and the reality was they weren't good enough. It was about strength of schedule. Sure the coach argues health of athletes and a bunch of other stuff.

The reality is they see the team they just beat by 40 drop to 8 man and make the championship game and then they have to listen to the neighboring town act like they are better than you. But if they drop to 8 man, well things change and get easier. That's a fact.

Strength of schedule matters. There is zero flaw in the analogy.

 

[CyTwins]

I don't know how someone can think SOS doesn't matter. It's probably used as a crutch too often on here but it absolutely matters and has an affect on wins and losses

 

[AWOL2000]

To be clear I'm not saying SOS doesn't matter at the college level. It absolutely does.