Or teams that only look mediocre because they actually have to show up every week. No other conference has 90% of their teams at least mediocre.
Reality bites: Big XII rank
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You're joking right? I'm tired of finishing at the bottom of the conference too, but that isn't something I'd ever want an Iowa State program to be associated with.
I think the lack of depth on both sides of the ball showed this year. When Knott and Watson went out the defense was no where near as good. The offense was not good enough all year, but with out Lenz, it was really bad. I didn't think there were any games where ISU was completely out classed this year. Tx and OU beat up on the ISU dbs, but their WR got away with several real bad pushoffs that would have been called on less elite teams.
Actually I think we did pretty good getting bowl eligible with the things that went wrong. We struggled with inconsistent qb play until we stumbled upon Sam at the end of the year, lost our best defender in the middle of the Big 12 schedule, and lost 2 key d-backs the last part of the season. If we discover Sam earlier and/or don't lose one or two of our best defenders and we may have ended up 4th and added another victory over the #2 team in the country. I know everybody has injuries, but two things we had to have this year was to stay healthy on defense and get good qb play. Despite getting neither (til Sam anyway) we got bowl eligible. I'll take it.
Five, yes count them, five teams in the Big 12 finished with 7-5 records. 8 of the 10 teams had winning records. Only one team had a losing record. Parity reigns. If any team showed up not ready to play or with lots of injuries, the result was a big L.
This. 3rd-9th all finished within 2 conference wins of each other. ISU is not that far off.
This thing ain't over yet, either. When ISU gets done winning their bowl game 9 out of 10 Big 12 teams will have finished with winning records. Name one other conference in this country that can claim 90% of their teams have winning records. Hell - how many of them right now can claim 80%
Look around we are close I am not into moral victories as is much of you. The future is bright here and I am not just saying that to a Cyclone homer as I have been tough on my clones in the past. Facilities, recruiting, and fan support has gotten a ton better in four years. If you are disappointed with this season and we play in tough as hell league, just look east and ask some Hawk fans how they feel about their spiraling program in a **** conference.
None not freaking one, and I thought I read that we have a record for most teams bowling in a conference or am I wrong?
Bama and UGA also have the luxury of being in a conference where only one team(a Big 12 transplant) has the slightest clue as to how to play offense. That tends to allow your corners to play tighter.
I believe it's highest percentage, not number. Either way, it's freaking awesome.
The "tough schedule" talk needs to stop. Because unless I am mistaken....everyone in our conference played the same schedule. As for non conference.....the only team worth a d*** was Tulsa. Yes...the Big 12 was tough. But all that means is that we were one of the worst teams in a tough conference.
With that said......gone are the days of OU coming to Ames and their starters coming out in sweats after halftime, because the game was decided in the first 30 seconds. So that is progress. I guess ISU football is like kissing the hottest girl in class......who happens to be your sister.
With that said......gone are the days of OU coming to Ames and their starters coming out in sweats after halftime, because the game was decided in the first 30 seconds. So that is progress. I guess ISU football is like kissing the hottest girl in class......who happens to be your sister.
you cannot be serious
Relative to how good those teams were? Absolutely. And yes, it was pretty weak.57th rated (sagarin) tulsa, 70 rated iowa, 190 rated W Ill. Yet our offense sputtered at times against W Ill even, and couldn't put any points up against Iowa.
24 points against a team that was giving up almost double that in conference is incompetent. there's no way to sugarcoat that.
we can count it as another game where with a halfway decent qb we couldve won that game.
strongly disagree. boykins has looked much better in later games. he even showed a good amount of promise in our game, but had turnover issues.
Speaking of not being serious.
-Boykin still looks like a good athlete with a strong arm playing QB, much like Jantz, but with better WRs. Both quantitatively and qualitatively he has not shown improvement. Even ignoring that, the whole contention is invalid when that is the game of football. To be consistent you should be damn thrilled with the season, because losing Knott, Givens, Lenz, and Watson hurt ISU.
Have you checked out other big 12 non-con schedules? Listen to yourself, talking about sputtering at times in a blowout win against W ILL? Winning on the road against Iowa. Who the **** cares about margin of victory? Next you are going to complain about how many yards we gave up in a 3 TD win?
When this bs is on your list of negatives, either you are a moron or we had a good season. Your choice.
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We didn't take a giant step forward like we all wanted, but make no mistake we did take a step forward this year.
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1. We are not Alabama or Georgia, and likely will never be.
2. Our defense gave up 23.3 points per game, good enough for a top third finish nationally and (I think) 3rd in the Big 12. The defense held all but one opponent below its season average in scoring. The defense was not, let me repeat, WAS NOT the problem this season. The inept offense we were forced to watch much of the season that couldn't keep the defense on the sidelines was the reason.
I agree. With an average Big 12 quarterback, we're 8-4, possibly better. Hopefully we found that in Sam Richardson.
I like the fact that we are thinking of 6-6 as a "disappointment" as a season. Shows progression of our fanbase, or at least the fanbase that posts on CF...
You can't just expect to go from 2-3 wins to 9-10 wins just like that. With ISU, we get to 9-10 win seasons by consistently getting to 6 wins and then getting some breaks from there. So far, Rhoads has shown the ability to consistently get us to around 6 wins, and hopefully with the progression and development of players we see the next step coming.
You can't just expect to go from 2-3 wins to 9-10 wins just like that. With ISU, we get to 9-10 win seasons by consistently getting to 6 wins and then getting some breaks from there. So far, Rhoads has shown the ability to consistently get us to around 6 wins, and hopefully with the progression and development of players we see the next step coming.
