I hate watching any game on their field, it just looks so wrong.
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When I see that blue Dr. Seuss field on TV, i immediately turn the channel.
As others have said, it really hurts their viewability. As those other posters have said If they are playing home I immediately turn the channel, I would possibly watch them sometimes but that blue field makes them almost unwatchable. Being several on here have said the same thing, I would assume there are a lot of people that feel that way, so anything that hurts your product and views is not good. Sure their fans love it and its their image etc, but it just looks like a gimmick, tacky and redneck. Their fans would watch if they had a hot pink field. Hurting their additional viewership outside their direct fanbase is not a good idea.
It also is possibly an unfair advantage to teams not used to playing on a neon blue field. Sure there is no rule against it, but teams in another conference are going to look at that aspect when they vote on adding them to a conference.
It really makes them a low rate, gimmicky program, and I know a lot feel that way about that field. You will never see the a major program or facility with a field like that. Keep in mind I am also not a fan of some of the ridiculous basketball courts out there, but those feel more accepted and watchable than the blue turf. I know for a while TV cameras were having some real problems with the color causing issues, with things washing out etc. But I think they have figured that out. Still doesnt make it any easier to watch, and not get a headache.
Does Eastern Washington still have the red field? An even harder watch!
Don’t forget Eastern Michigan’s grey field and Coastal Carolina’s Turquoise one
Doesn’t help when they also wear all blue. They just blend in. Maybe that’s the point? I don’t know how much they blend at field level perspectives. Rules should be made that at least one of your jersey or pants must contrast with the field.
Notice none of those are a major program or in a major conference. For a school like BSU that wants to be a legitimate program, and wants to get into a major conference, you would think they would understand this.
The gray field I will say is easier to watch and even the turquoise one is too to a point. I have watched a little on that red field and it is just as bad as the blue.
I still think there should be a regulation in place for color being a natural appearing etc field. There are rules for everything else about a field, why not color. It should be consistent across the sport, just like dimensions etc.
Look up Central Arkansas. Stripes.
Its not the field that's keeping Boise out. They also have the highest TV ratings in the G5. People not watching because the turf is blue is hogwash.
They aren't in a power league because they were a JUCO until the late 80s and their academic standards didn't change when they went 4 year. University presidents don't want to be associated with them for academic reasons.
Its not the field that's keeping Boise out. They also have the highest TV ratings in the G5. People not watching because the turf is blue is hogwash.
They aren't in a power league because they were a JUCO until the late 80s and their academic standards didn't change when they went 4 year. University presidents don't want to be associated with them for academic reasons.
Yup. Boise State makes K-State look like Harvard which is why they are being left out.
Average Home Attendance 2023-2024
[conclusion of regular season on 3/12/24]
Average by Conference:
Big 10 - 12,011
SEC - 11, 522
Big East - 10,422
Big 12 - 10,242
ACC - 10,163
MWC - 6,996
Pac12 - 6,908
Median by Conference:
Big 10 - 12,496
Big 12 - 10,200
Big East - 10,183
SEC - 9,417
ACC - 8,752
Pac12 - 7,357
MWC - 6,752
Big 12 (new teams included, UT and OU not)
9 Kansas - 16,300 [max capacity is 15.3K this yr]
10 BYU - 15,689
16 Arizona - 14,392
18 Iowa State - 13,868
24 Texas Tech - 12,962
36 West Virginia - 10,546
39 Kansas State - 10,206
40 Cincinnati - 10,193
48 Utah - 8,777
54 Arizona State - 8,317
66 Colorado - 7,531
69 Houston - 7,351
70 UCF - 7,226
78 Oklahoma State - 6,604
80 TCU - 6,302
Big 10 (new teams included)
7 Indiana - 16,488
11 Wisconsin - 15,496
12 Illinois - 14,990
13 Purdue - 14,876
14 Mich St - 14,979
15 Nebraska(??) - 14,597
22 Maryland - 13,283
28 Ohio St - 11,709
30 Michigan - 11,496
38 iowa** - 10,300
55 Penn St - 8,304
56 Minn - 8,140
59 Rutgers - 8,000
67 Oregon - 7,493
68 UCLA(??) -7,493
72 Wash - 7,221
81 USC - 6,302
88 N'Western - 5,704
** Iowa’s listed attendance [vs. tickets sold] average of 9,712 fans per home game ranks 10th out of the 14 teams in the Big Ten. Data obtained by The Gazette via public records requests paints an even bleaker picture about men’s basketball turnout.
In 13 [out of 16 total] home men’s basketball games — 12 regular-season games and one preseason exhibition — the Hawkeyes averaged 5,202 tickets scanned per game. -CR Gazette **
ACC (all new teams but SMU included):
1 UNC -20,593
2 Syrause - 20,288
17 Virginia - 13,992
19 NC State - 13,491
29 L'Ville - 11,504
44 Duke - 9,314
47 Wake F. - 9,026
49 Pitt - 8,752
63 Va Tech - 7,785
64 Clemson - 7,706
74 Miami - 7,159
82 FSU - 6,251
92 BC - 5,493
101 Ga Tech - 4,994
110 Cal - 4,566
133 Stanford - 3,538
SEC (texas and oklahoma included):
3 Kentucky - 19,928
4 Tenn - 19,664
5 Arkansas(?) - 19,106 (!)
21 S Carolina - 13,397
32 Bama - 11,395
33 Mizzou - 10,856
34 texa$ - 10,682
42 Tx A&M - 9,650
45 Flordia - 9,183
46 Auburn - 9,121
53 Miss St - 8,334
57 Georgia - 8,092
58 LSU - 8,029
62 oklahoma - 7,670
75 Vandy - 6,786
Big East
6 Creighton - 17,269
8 Marquette - 16,307
25 UConn - 12,733
31 Providence - 11,369
37 Xavier - 10,316
41 St John's - 10,183
43 Nova - 9,410
50 Seton Hall - 8,748
60 Butler - 7,844
76 G'Town - 6,755
129 DePaul - 3,703 (!!)
FORMER DEFUNCT PAC12 (...was SO bad)
16 Arizona - 14,392
48 Utah - 8,777
54 Az State - 8,317
66 Colorado - 7,531
67 Oregon - 7,493
68 UCLA - 7,493
72 Wash - 7,221
81 USC - 6,302
110 Cal - 4,566
126 Wash St - 3,823
133 Standford - 3,538
135 Oregon St - 3,441
Mountain West
23 New Mexico - 13,042
26 San Diego St - 12,367
35 Boise St - 10,564
51 Nevada - 8,507
52 Utah State - 8,483
77 Colorado St - 6,752
94 UNLV - 5,350
122 Wyoming - 3,937
125 Fresno St - 3,834
179 San Jose St - 2,321
226 Air Force - 1,803
Top 10 NOT Listed Above
20 Dayton - 13,407
27 Memphis - 12,276
71 Grand Canyon - 7,223
73 VCU - 7,201
79 Gonzaga - 6,401
84 Wichita St - 5,983
85 Richmond - 5,834
86 Old Dominion - 5,761
87 Indiana St - 5,729
89 Saint Louis - 5,640
[conclusion of regular season on 3/12/24]
Average by Conference:
Big 10 - 12,011
SEC - 11, 522
Big East - 10,422
Big 12 - 10,242
ACC - 10,163
MWC - 6,996
Pac12 - 6,908
Median by Conference:
Big 10 - 12,496
Big 12 - 10,200
Big East - 10,183
SEC - 9,417
ACC - 8,752
Pac12 - 7,357
MWC - 6,752
Big 12 (new teams included, UT and OU not)
9 Kansas - 16,300 [max capacity is 15.3K this yr]
10 BYU - 15,689
16 Arizona - 14,392
18 Iowa State - 13,868
24 Texas Tech - 12,962
36 West Virginia - 10,546
39 Kansas State - 10,206
40 Cincinnati - 10,193
48 Utah - 8,777
54 Arizona State - 8,317
66 Colorado - 7,531
69 Houston - 7,351
70 UCF - 7,226
78 Oklahoma State - 6,604
80 TCU - 6,302
Big 10 (new teams included)
7 Indiana - 16,488
11 Wisconsin - 15,496
12 Illinois - 14,990
13 Purdue - 14,876
14 Mich St - 14,979
15 Nebraska(??) - 14,597
22 Maryland - 13,283
28 Ohio St - 11,709
30 Michigan - 11,496
38 iowa** - 10,300
55 Penn St - 8,304
56 Minn - 8,140
59 Rutgers - 8,000
67 Oregon - 7,493
68 UCLA(??) -7,493
72 Wash - 7,221
81 USC - 6,302
88 N'Western - 5,704
** Iowa’s listed attendance [vs. tickets sold] average of 9,712 fans per home game ranks 10th out of the 14 teams in the Big Ten. Data obtained by The Gazette via public records requests paints an even bleaker picture about men’s basketball turnout.
In 13 [out of 16 total] home men’s basketball games — 12 regular-season games and one preseason exhibition — the Hawkeyes averaged 5,202 tickets scanned per game. -CR Gazette **
ACC (all new teams but SMU included):
1 UNC -20,593
2 Syrause - 20,288
17 Virginia - 13,992
19 NC State - 13,491
29 L'Ville - 11,504
44 Duke - 9,314
47 Wake F. - 9,026
49 Pitt - 8,752
63 Va Tech - 7,785
64 Clemson - 7,706
74 Miami - 7,159
82 FSU - 6,251
92 BC - 5,493
101 Ga Tech - 4,994
110 Cal - 4,566
133 Stanford - 3,538
SEC (texas and oklahoma included):
3 Kentucky - 19,928
4 Tenn - 19,664
5 Arkansas(?) - 19,106 (!)
21 S Carolina - 13,397
32 Bama - 11,395
33 Mizzou - 10,856
34 texa$ - 10,682
42 Tx A&M - 9,650
45 Flordia - 9,183
46 Auburn - 9,121
53 Miss St - 8,334
57 Georgia - 8,092
58 LSU - 8,029
62 oklahoma - 7,670
75 Vandy - 6,786
Big East
6 Creighton - 17,269
8 Marquette - 16,307
25 UConn - 12,733
31 Providence - 11,369
37 Xavier - 10,316
41 St John's - 10,183
43 Nova - 9,410
50 Seton Hall - 8,748
60 Butler - 7,844
76 G'Town - 6,755
129 DePaul - 3,703 (!!)
FORMER DEFUNCT PAC12 (...was SO bad)
16 Arizona - 14,392
48 Utah - 8,777
54 Az State - 8,317
66 Colorado - 7,531
67 Oregon - 7,493
68 UCLA - 7,493
72 Wash - 7,221
81 USC - 6,302
110 Cal - 4,566
126 Wash St - 3,823
133 Standford - 3,538
135 Oregon St - 3,441
Mountain West
23 New Mexico - 13,042
26 San Diego St - 12,367
35 Boise St - 10,564
51 Nevada - 8,507
52 Utah State - 8,483
77 Colorado St - 6,752
94 UNLV - 5,350
122 Wyoming - 3,937
125 Fresno St - 3,834
179 San Jose St - 2,321
226 Air Force - 1,803
Top 10 NOT Listed Above
20 Dayton - 13,407
27 Memphis - 12,276
71 Grand Canyon - 7,223
73 VCU - 7,201
79 Gonzaga - 6,401
84 Wichita St - 5,983
85 Richmond - 5,834
86 Old Dominion - 5,761
87 Indiana St - 5,729
89 Saint Louis - 5,640
Pac-(12) covering as many bases as possible for branding.
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Report: Pac-12 filed seven trademark applications to cover potential name changes
The Pac-12 has undergone many name changes over its 100-plus years of existence. What began as the Pacific Coast Conference in 1915 morphed into the Athletic A
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the most important metric is tv ratings, not attendance. i saw a video where the big 12 and ACC TV ratings were compared and the big 12 creamed the ACC. colo. averaged 3.15 million per game, way ahead of anyone else in either league. ISU and WVU were 7 and 8 in the big 12 respectively.
GT led the acc, with clemson 2nd, and fsu, i think, 3rd. ill find the youtube video and post it later.
GT led the acc, with clemson 2nd, and fsu, i think, 3rd. ill find the youtube video and post it later.
I am hoping that with ESPN basically giving away some rights to TBS/TNT. That the Big12 will have very few games on ESPN+, which might boost the ratings of those less desirable games.
