We make that cut.
I'm completely fine with it in football. I hate what it means for post-season basketball (death to the tournament as we know it).
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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I'm completely fine with it in football. I hate what it means for post-season basketball (death to the tournament as we know it).
Disagree. We're much closer to those leagues financially than we are the leagues behind us.
The Big 12 will likely never win a football championship, but will have a seat at the table while continuing to dominate in hoops.
It's pretty much exactly what we believed was coming, without March Madness cinderellas.
I would imagine some schools currently in the P5(4?) will voluntarily bow out and not want to be involved in all of this.
70 would basically be all the P5 plus ND. Do we really think up to 20 current members would bow out of this new model? These schools are free to leave their current leagues to step down to a lower level whenever, but yet they don't. When was the last time that actually happened? U of Chicago leaving B1G athletics like 100 years ago?
Even those schools that never have a shot to win anything are hooked on the money and exposure that comes with being in the club.
Yeah, the basketball tournament would take a severe hit in my mind
Hey, 50-70 and ISU makes the cut for sure. That would be better all around than the 20-24 team superleague. Basically it would be the P5 and a couple independents, or else the P5 minus the schools that don't care about sports.
Good grief, maybe they could even re-set the divisions into sizes and geography that isn't insane.
I couldn't find a full transcript, but this makes me cautiously optimistic they could make CFB better rather than destroy it.
Edit- didn't see the bit about March Madness being restricted. I would hate that. Let the little guys play!
Good grief, maybe they could even re-set the divisions into sizes and geography that isn't insane.
I couldn't find a full transcript, but this makes me cautiously optimistic they could make CFB better rather than destroy it.
Edit- didn't see the bit about March Madness being restricted. I would hate that. Let the little guys play!
It sucks all around but I’m somewhat optimistic. Could existence of a valid 3rd/4th power conference keep some of the Anti-Trust issues cooled down for SEC and B1G?
Some great basketball schools stand to lose a lot in future. I expect there to be lawsuits when the schism happens. I really don’t trust Congress to figure it out either.
I really wouldn't mind a 16-20 school super league with the 20-70 being it's own division. We'd be pretty competitive, and the ratings would be really good.
As long as there are only 22 guys on the field at once, the schools in that next tier will have opportunities to attract and keep quality players.
How come in the 60s legislation was passed to protect college football on saturdays from the the NFL but nothing can be done to protect the essence of college athletics today? Everyone hates what is happening (besides the few dozen mega rich admins and coaches) why is everyone just rolling over like it's inevitable? We can find ways to revenue share and pay players without destroying march madness and other beloved traditions
The people in charge don't care.
As long as we keep watching, they won't care.
The basketball tournament will be fine. There’s enough desire to keep it going in either its current form or a very similar form. It’s the other sports that will take the severe hit. Without the NCAA or funding from it, will most other sports even exist?
I think in the end, football will cease to be an NCAA sport and everything else will remain as they are. Football will split off and create a separate organization sturcture.
I could absolutely see this happening.
Then MBB would be the whale, and maybe it would get split off too. It may be only 20-30% the size of CFB media money, but it's still infinitely bigger than the other sports which are negative.
I feel like there are enough high level athletes that there will be more than 40ish schools that can compete at a high level.
Maybe athletes in the Big12 and ACC only make 70percent of what a kid at a Big10 or SEC school make, but they should be able to compete. Especially in basketball. We saw that last year with SDSU and FAU. Football will be a tougher deal, but who knows- if athletes become employees maybe even elite schools push to reduce scholarships from 85 to 65-75.
Plus if players are employees and get a share of revenue, then as part of the collective bargaining process we could see the end of immediate eligible transfers or maybe the transfer-to school has to pay a transfer fee.
I've been reading comments on this board about anti trust or Congressional actions in realignment for more than a decade now (RIP Megathread). Not a damn thing has happened to this point. That tells you all you need to know. It isn't coming. Ever.
The best thing that should happen a things move in this direction, and the first thing, is that college football could realistically move outside of the structure of the NCAA and the current mess of bloated conferences.
The conferences and NCAA are only the way they are because of tv money.
If this happens, some sanity can return for conferences with regard to all other sports. Re-regionalize and cap conferences at ten teams, for scheduling flexibility, travel benefits, and cohesion.
The conferences and NCAA are only the way they are because of tv money.
If this happens, some sanity can return for conferences with regard to all other sports. Re-regionalize and cap conferences at ten teams, for scheduling flexibility, travel benefits, and cohesion.
I saw a bunch of interesting darts being thrown against the wall on Reddit yesterday. Such as:
-Salary Caps?
-CBA with all tv money thrown in a pot( that will never fly)
-All incoming freshman get paid the exact same. Recruits then can’t follow the dollars but can commit to a school based on playing time, winning, the school, the coach, ect.
-Freshman can’t transfer until 2 academic years.
I’m sure nothing will be thought out and it’ll be the Wild West similar to everything else involved in college athletics.
-Salary Caps?
-CBA with all tv money thrown in a pot( that will never fly)
-All incoming freshman get paid the exact same. Recruits then can’t follow the dollars but can commit to a school based on playing time, winning, the school, the coach, ect.
-Freshman can’t transfer until 2 academic years.
I’m sure nothing will be thought out and it’ll be the Wild West similar to everything else involved in college athletics.
I feel it will be thought out since the school/athlete relationship will be spelled out by a CBA. There are already models in place in professional sports.
It brings the money out of the dark and into the open just like professional sport salaries. I would think NIL money would go through the school or an agent, but would have to be reported so that their aren't rogue boosters still funneling money to employee-athletes.
If they are employees, couldn’t schools sign them to non-compete clauses? At least in some states.
