If I’m Yormark, I’d let AZ in as full member right away then let ASU and Utah grovel and slink in at a lower rate. They clearly were not business savvy enough to keep all options open earlier in the process.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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I do believe they are slated to be a permanent semi-final host (or at least in the Playoff rotation) in the expanded CFP. So, the conference ties will beasically be irrelevant going forward. Heck, they are a semi-final this year, so the old B1G-Pac Rose Bowl (which strated with the 1947 Rose Bowl) is already dead. If I am wrong about this, I'm sure somebody will chime in with the correction.
Which a separate basketball contract can severely screw up expectations.
Ive seen people wonder, if Fox will only pay for 1 more school, would we take 3.
My feeling is this. If WAOR leave to the B1G, and AZ jumps to the B12.
What are the rest going to do. The deal they had for whatever they had, is going to be off the table.
So they are going to be lucky to get a deal that pays them similar to the MWC. At which point if Fox wont pay its share, and the B12 doesnt pick up another partner for the content. Those teams will be happy to accept just ESPNs 20m share. So I could see it going that BY tells them that if the PAC falls apart we can only guarantee full share for 14 teams, after that you might get more, you might get less, depending on Fox or another added partner. Be the 14th or take that risk.
But I still have an idea in the end if we go to 16 everyone will get the pro rata, but it gives them an incentive to be the 14th.
My feeling is this. If WAOR leave to the B1G, and AZ jumps to the B12.
What are the rest going to do. The deal they had for whatever they had, is going to be off the table.
So they are going to be lucky to get a deal that pays them similar to the MWC. At which point if Fox wont pay its share, and the B12 doesnt pick up another partner for the content. Those teams will be happy to accept just ESPNs 20m share. So I could see it going that BY tells them that if the PAC falls apart we can only guarantee full share for 14 teams, after that you might get more, you might get less, depending on Fox or another added partner. Be the 14th or take that risk.
But I still have an idea in the end if we go to 16 everyone will get the pro rata, but it gives them an incentive to be the 14th.
True, but there will be a lot more teams "out-gapping" us.
Believe me, I am fine if the Big 12 is last in payout as long as it is competitive enough to hire good coaches and invest in facilities. I am just surprised it may get here faster than we all thought.
As long as P2 is not the end result of all this.
Wash. State has no chance. Pullman, WA is really isolated. Been there and done that too! No games there, but I have visited the Campus. FWIW, I think Oregon State would make a great add like Iowa State would (to any other conference). They both just have a perception problem.Who just made you Bob Barker?
And I seriously have empathy for WSU and OR State. What they must be going through. Well, we've been there.
But we came out on the other side. I'm not sure if that will happen with them.
You're so misguided that the Big10 media powers got to you.
They did all this because they knew the Pac12 would eventually die and they could get Washington and Oregon at half price. They don't give two ***** about killing a conference
Or would they drop to the AAC and ESPN says we will give you 10MM if you go there. Much cheaper than what they were but adds a couple stronger teams to the AAC.
Agreed. Give Arizona ESPN and Fox money. Give ASU and Utah ESPN money only.
Dennis Dodd has a very interesting article on CBS Sports. Sorry I can’t put that on here. But, the addition talk about adding another team to the big 12 is nice. We Ned to add bigger fish. That means cracking the ACC contract to go after Miami, Clemson, FSU, those people. Oregon? I think that is the only way the Big 12 competes and grows the money that is coming in 10-15 years. The sooner the ACC contract goes away the sooner the really big money gets pushed in the pool.
My #s were all the confirmed moves, not where people are playing now. So our 13 is the new four and Colorado...even though almost certain AZ moves from Pac for now they are Pac 9.
I see the total # of "power conference" teams subtracting by 2 or 4. I really can't see any team outside of slim chance UConn adding to the #.
The scary thing is that Iowa State has been that "subtraction" candidate several times and we finally ARE NOT.
USF - Already happened
UConn - Already happened
WSU - happening
Ore St - happening
Cal/Stanford - some chance of losing at musical chairs
Boston College, Syracuse, Wake Forest - be on alert next wave
...those are the victims of realignment in terms of being power conference and losing it.
New Mexico State and Idaho are the mid major or "G5" type teams that lost FBS conference membership in all this. I'm sure MWC members will try to lock together to avoid another round of that.
It's OK to have 2 schools from one state. And based everything that I have read WSU and OSU have valuations more appropriate of MWC schools. Which is where they will end up if the Pac12 implodes.
ASU is in MSA of nearly 5M people. The Big12 would love to be in a media market that big. People are critical of UU fans, but there is no denying the Utes have had a top 15 football program over the last 10-15 years. Brands matter, but in the case of the Big12, we need programs that are good enough to play in the CFP.
In this case, the Big12 having a strong regional presence in the Southwest outweighs the need to be spread out and have teams in Oregon & Washington.
WSU/Ore St fit the footprint well, they are new states but very close to MWC teams, especially by the history of these western conference including old Wac, Pac and MWC. If MWC wants to further expand either Montana school is the same situation where it's a new state but fits the footprint well.
What’s the TLDR on scheers latest 247 article about the pac 12 number officially being 24 Mil on the high end and that all 4 corner schools are now aligned
I haven't read it but that would be the first reasonable source I've heard report that Utah is now begging to join the Truck Stop. It was inevitable at some point. The first time they play in Ames we need truck stop jokes en masse. (just hope it goes better than the other Utah game in Ames)
I don't think ASU was ever as nuts as Utah and they've completely joined the B12 bandwagon.
My only sticking point with this is that if everyone else (B1G, SEC) starts going to super conferences, we best be doing the same as well. Constant contacts and constant list of 20 team candidates, ready to go at any point.
SIgn me up right now. Let's jump to the part where this is the result.
