You're not kidding about the upper deck. I went to the 2021 Louisville - UK game and watched someone fall 6-7 rows.
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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I don't know, will it really?
The Big ten was already making a lot more than Big 12. Their basketball totally sucks compared to the Big 12 (as does everybody else except for Big East). Ohio State has been the best program in either conference in football but Baylor, OK St and TCU have all done just as much as Michigan and Penn State, actually more. Then after those top teams the Big 12 is kind of objectively deeper in the middle and bottom.
No amount of money is going to make Minnesota, Rutgers, Purdue, Illinois, Maryland, NW and Indiana into Texas-based or Florida-based football teams.
SEC is a different animal, they have a path to utterly crush all other leagues in football including Big Ten.
Hey lawyers. If the B1G pays more for the product than the P12 offer, could there be an argument for some sort of antitrust? Inferring of course, that they're manipulating the nationwide product.
I know you don't need 64 or 4x16, I've always just been interested in how that # has changed over the years.
There was one point a few years back that it was exactly 64 if you didn't count independent ND.
For a while it was only growing...UConn and USF were the first subtraction #s who lost "BCS" conference status. Now Wash St and Ore St almost certain subtraction. Cal/Stanford with a slim chance of being a subtraction too.
That’s another reason big ten is not going allow Oregon and Washington go to big 12. It’s going to add to the football value of the big 12.
And if there is an SEC (or (B1G) team playing I most likely will be finding other things to do with my time. Do not care what the final score is.
If this is what the media partners want, they need to realize they are alienating half (or more) of the population that used to enjoy college FB.
That’s exactly right. That’s why none of my TVs go to those games.
Change UConn to Oregon State, and I like that even better! The Beavers have recently won CWS Baseball Championships, been to the Elite 8 in Men's B-Ball and won a Fiesta Bowl this century. Plus, they are closer to Portland than Oregon is. Point about that is that travel to and from Ore. State is not that bad. I did it myself in 2019 when I went to the Cyclones @ Beavers MBB game. Attended the Beavers football game vs. Washington the night before too. So, Arizona (Must), Ariz. State and Ore. State (for the fun of it) come on down!
Had a thought. Might be off.
That's how you get them to the Big Ten. ESPN continues to own the rights to their home games, it gives ESPN a back door into Big Ten content and the other portions of the Big Ten deal still pay FSU/Clemson enough where it's worth their while to move. The remaining ACC is still worth the money ESPN is paying them even without those two.
The Big Ten's other media partners still have 9 FSU/Clemson games and ESPN gets 9 Big Ten games at a massive discount. Same thing applies to basketball.
On the field results will still exist.
Look at basketball. The media slobbers over the Big Ten all year, every year, 24/7 and they get great seeds and lots of bids every year. Then reality happens, they get destroyed immediately in the big dance, the Big 12 and Big East almost always do great and some years the ACC does great.
SEC football is the scary one, they are legit dominant and the idea of them getting bigger and better than they already are isn't necessarily good for the sport if you want it to remain a national thing.
You could argue the Big Ten lower tier teams can now try new coaches faster until they get a winner, but being impatient with fb coaches especially can backfire.
The Big12 contract will remain the same at 3/3 as it is now at 3/5. The gap will still be the same.
You honestly think the Big 10 gives two ***** about the football value of the Big 12? Big 12 adding ORWA isn't going to increase the value to the extent where we're suddenly competing with them on that. The sole reason why the Big 10 didn't add ORWA a year ago is the PR - they don't want to look like the "bad guys" in all of this. By adding them now when the Pac 12 is about to implode they get them and get to proclaim that "they're saving them" all while villainizing the Big 12 in the process.
Yeah, can't wait for fox and espn crews show up at the stadium with baseball bats! Set up the cameras guys! LOL
Who just made you Bob Barker?
And I seriously have empathy for WSU and OR State. What they must be going through. Well, we've been there.
But we came out on the other side. I'm not sure if that will happen with them.
With the college football playoffs expanding it definitely will help them get a spot or two. Oregon and Washington usually in top 15 for football consistently. Didn’t say compete with them either. Just stating that they aren’t going let two teams that have potential of grabbing playoff spots when expanding go to the big 12.
