Wake Forest vs. Washington State. Exciting. PAC ACC Game of the Week. Next week Boston College vs. Oregon State. Can’t wait
Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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Wake Forest vs. Washington State. Exciting. PAC ACC Game of the Week. Next week Boston College vs. Oregon State. Can’t wait
That's like most games in other conferences for me now - I don't watch.
So we’d really just be adding one extra in Cal in the long run, in order to eliminate the Pac12 and get the 4-6 we want?
I don’t think that’s an issue at all. With luck Cal goes with Stanford to BIG (you’re telling me the politics of CA allowed UCLA to **** Cal like that?) or they drop out of major college football
Can we please stop implying that the AAC (at least before we took Cincy, Houston and UCF) was basically going to the MAC? There’s a pretty big difference between ending up in the best G5 conference vs one that would likely lose a challenge with the Missouri Valley.
This sums me up exactly. The only reason I watch non-ISU matchups is to see how it applies to potential future bowl match-ups and keeping tabs on the overall college football season since ISU is in the same overall league. You take ISU out of the big league College Football arrangement, I have 0% interest in the Big Ten and SEC. Yes I am just one person and that makes zero difference but I venture to guess a majority of college football fans are the same way. Nobody just casually watches college football, they watch because they are fans of a team. You cut off enough teams from the P2, you lose a significant viewership from non-P2 who won't pay for subscriptions, won't tune into national broadcasts on linear networks, and then those huge estimates don't pan out.
That is the entire appeal. That and if I have a little league team to feed and want a menu with a billion things on it.
Does anybody actually argue Hickory Park is better than Cornbred? It’s comparing one that costs double the other. They aren’t the same type of restaurant at all.
Its a **** show, it will crash at some point, no way this is sustainable in the long run. Whatever I guess....
I am viewing this as ESPN vs Fox. ESPN may try and move Okie State to the SEC to weaken Fox's second league, the Big 12.
Im fine with elevating programs, but I hold them to the same deal as anyone else we're looking at. If they've earned it on the field, fit well, and add something to the conference(money or market) then im in.
The last thing I want the Big 12 to be(other than dead) is be the same soulless ******** conference the Big 10 is. Sure they have their money but like 90% of their games in their major sports are who gives a **** games between 2 teams nobody cares about.
You’re not necessarily wrong about Cal.
Summary of Cal’s last 20 football seasons:
1 x Conference Championship
4 x Top 25 final national rankings
1 x Top 10 final national ranking (#9)
7-4 record in bowl games
2 x 10 win seasons
1 x 9 win season
5 x 8 win seasons
128-115 overall record
You don’t want to compare this to ISU.
Summary of Cal’s last 20 basketball seasons:
8 x NCAA tournament berths (4 wins total)
4 x NIT tournament berths (4 wins total)
This compares a bit more favorably.
I'd say their basketball summary is about the same as our football comparisons but flipped. And who the heck talks about NIT berths, most teams I know are embarrassed by them and won't mention them.
I know Iowa is pretty proud of their NIT national runner-up accomplishment a few years ago.
Since 2010 Cal is 60-80 in football. I don’t know why we’re takings thing back to a 2006 PAC-10 championship to make that football program look accomplished.
This is the same BS that drives me nuts with Nebraska fans. What matters is where things stand today. Iowa State is currently in a much stronger position than Cal in both major sports.
I would say 7-10 years is about the length that is reasonable to go back. Over that and many peoples opinions and views change when they aren't blue bloods and neither ISU or Cal is a blue blood.
Agree, fascinated by this stuff. The biggest deal I've found in my family tree is my 9th great-grandfather came over on the Mayflower and was a governor of Plymouth Colony. Also had a great-great grandfather who came over from Germany, was a farmer in northern Iowa until the age of 92, had a heart attack while feeding his pigs, it was later revealed that the name/identity he had been living with in America wasn't really his, it was his twin brother's, he had been accused of murdering a farmer outside their village in Germany so he took his brother's name and papers and fled to America. Someone else was later convicted of the murder but his whole life over here he lived under his twin brother's name and identity.
Yeah, I get that. The NIT berths are just shorthand for “above average”
Embarrassingly, I added the overall football record in my head. Wasn’t about to try that for basketball.
I’m not 100% on the basketball/football flip idea…but it is probably close.
Oregon st and Washington st were 2 of the 6 PAC schools that were bowl eligible last year. Results aren't much of a factor.
I agree Cal won't be a consideration for the Big XII.
My long-term wish for the conference is add the 4 corner schools and Washington. 6 in the west with BYU. Add 3 from the east. Pittsburgh, Virginia Tech and NC ST or Miami.
I hate the idea of adding Louisville, just to scummy.
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