Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)
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You know nobody’s going the big 12 yet. If Iowa State had a chance to get into the b1g you wouldn’t take a few days, literally how long it’s been so far, to collect yourself?
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ISU does have value ranking 27th in ratings last year. However the context is with other conferences. ISU’s ratings were only above Illinois, Maryland, northwestern, and Rutgers in the big ten (barely above Illinois but also just barely behind Indiana). So while ISU will have value it might just not be seen as value compared to most of the P2. ISU will be just fine especially as the ratings have been on the rise lately.
Attendance numbers don’t matter at all.
What are other BXII team boards saying like OK St, K St, etc? I haven't researched.
I was blown away in the documentary at the athletic talent of the other guys outside of Hakeem and Clyde. Wow!
As a huge NBA fan from mid 80s on I knew the two stars and how good they were but seeing even some of the guys off the bench. No way a team like that exists these days, they would've been one and done up and down the board now that length and athleticism gets drafted at 19 years old.
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AZ schools aren't high academia places. And the Pac12 has the best public school in the country (maybe world), along with Stanford and Cal bringing in world class education (adding thee film school of the world, USC) just from California. It drops off a lot with OSU, ASU, UA, WSU ..... UW and UO pretty darn good. No idea on UT.
If Iowa State had a chance to get into the B1G, you sign that **** like yesterday and schedule a national press conference immediately.
But we all know that isn't happening.
Meh, you’ve got to have a partner to dance. It might take months operating at 10 members or a big 10 Oregon move for some schools to realize the PAC just isn’t going to work.
The BIG and SEC have achieved the NFL type quality in which people watch because it is a BIG and SEC game. We also know that although brands are important, context still rules out. quality of team, time slot, channel, opponent, storyline, lead-in game...etc. Now obviously the quants at FOX and ESPN are working with multivariate analysis but the sample size to formulate the relationship between all these parameters is not exactly large, nor is it static
All schools would have higher valuations in the BIG or SEC. Does anyone really think Memphis would pull different for the SEC than MISS ST in 10 years if they flipped conferences?
Really sucks that ISU wasn't an emerging program a decade earlier. Our ranking where it stands is in large part to what our AD has done during his tenure.
I think a stable big 12 all these years could've easily added 2-4 of the Utah and AZ schools (as those markets grew and grew over the years) while keeping the rest of the country out of Texas in a significant way...it would've been fine.
Big 8 and SWC were on their own doomed though. Arkansas leaving SWC is the match spark of the whole thing.
Right now the original Big 12 with no Texas inroads for SEC would be CRUSHING the $$$ the ACC and Pac are looking at. Could easily have held tight, picked off a few from ACC and Pac...and it's big 3 instead of big 2. Nebraska/Texas egos just stupid. At least Texas has a path to relevance regardless of where they play if they reboot their culture, Nebraska should've done everything possible not to rock the boat.
'Bama was down by 'Bama standards but not down like Neb. is now. They haven't gone more than 3 years in a row w/o a 10 win season since 1981-5, and they went 39-18-2 in that stretch with an SEC Championship and 3 Bowl wins.
From 1986 until Saban took over in 2007, they had 10 or more wins 9 times: 10-3 in 1986, 10-2 in 1989, 11-1 in 1991, 13-0 in 1992, 12-1 in 1994, 10-3 in 1996, 10-3 in 1999, 10-3 in 2002 and 10-2 in 2005.
Not Bryantesque or Sabanesque but not down like Nebraska is now either.
Disagree that attendance numbers don’t matter. They can be a reasonable proxy for willingness of a fanbase to proactively seek out and pay for content in a new media world. TV ratings are more important, but there’s a lot of self-fulfilling prophecy that makes it hard to judge. You can’t compare an FS1 game to an ABC game. Opponent, time slot and network have massive influence. For example, Oregon looks way better than ISU, but if you compare ABC, Fox, and ESPN games they are very similar, Oregon just had more such games.
Pac-12 commish is pulling out every stop. All the plugged in reporters in the west are saying the same thing differently.
Big 12 did the same. The difference in 2021 was that we added the top 4 names in G5/ Independent outside of ND.
The PAC-12 has nowhere to hunt. Fresno St, UNLV, SDSU, and Boise don't offer the same as Cincinnati, BYU, Houston, and UCF. And their best assets have one foot out the door.
They either disappear or stay together on $10M minimum less per school per year.
Big 12 did the same. The difference in 2021 was that we added the top 4 names in G5/ Independent outside of ND.
The PAC-12 has nowhere to hunt. Fresno St, UNLV, SDSU, and Boise don't offer the same as Cincinnati, BYU, Houston, and UCF. And their best assets have one foot out the door.
They either disappear or stay together on $10M minimum less per school per year.
A HUGE bargaining chip for the Big Xii. Gve the Big Xii 4 Pac teams, and OuT are set free!
The Utah schools and the Arizona schools should have been added around 2002 if the big 12 was run properly, but nobody had any vision
