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HouClone said:
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I sadly believe Wilner will be correct here. We have a deal with ESPN but we never saw where our games are going to be shown at. ESPN, ESPN2 may all be SEC/ACC/Pac 12 after Dark. Big 12 gets ESPNU and ESPN+ for their games.
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The Big12 agreement with ESPN/FOX will spell out exactly how many games are on FOX, ABC, ESPN linear vs ESPN+. ESPN didn't spend what they did to put all the games on U or +.

Willner is right, a lot of games will be on ESPN+. They already are! Look at ISU's football schedule last year: 2 non-con on ESPN+ and 1 Big12 game. In MBB we had around 10 games on ESPN+.

Look at the ACC TV deal with ESPN for 2022 FB season: 14 games ABC, 16 on ESPN/2, 3 on U and over 70 games on ACCN.

So the issue isn't if tier 3 rights are on ESPN+ or ACCN- they will be. The important aspect of the media deal is % games on premier linear.
 
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isucy86 said:
The Big12 agreement with ESPN/FOX will spell out exactly how many games are on FOX, ABC, ESPN linear vs ESPN+. ESPN didn't spend what they did to put all the games on U or +.

Willner is right, a lot of games will be on ESPN+. They already are! Look at ISU's football schedule last year: 2 non-con on ESPN+ and 1 Big12 game. In MBB we had around 10 games on ESPN+.

Look at the ACC TV deal with ESPN for 2022 FB season: 14 games ABC, 16 on ESPN/2, 3 on U and over 70 games on ACCN.

So the issue isn't if tier 3 rights are on ESPN+ or ACCN- they will be. The important aspect of the media deal is % games on premier linear.
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Actually, the new B12 deal will see fewer MBB games on + because we are bringing FOX and FS1 into the mix. Football will likely be similar to in the past, maybe even a few more on streaming because of having more schools. But basketball will be more available via linear platforms than it is now.
 
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Nothing is going to happen here until after the NCAA tourney is over. After that I expect the PAC to either sign a bad deal or teams to jump or more nothing.

When does their current deal expire? After next season. They could wait for a while and hope something breaks i their favor and the deal improves.
 
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Actually, the new B12 deal will see fewer MBB games on + because we are bringing FOX and FS1 into the mix. Football will likely be similar to in the past, maybe even a few more on streaming because of having more schools. But basketball will be more available via linear platforms than it is now.
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Fox is going in pretty hard on CBB. Even their presentation and production really took a big leap forward this year.
 
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DSM4Cy said:
Actually, the new B12 deal will see fewer MBB games on + because we are bringing FOX and FS1 into the mix. Football will likely be similar to in the past, maybe even a few more on streaming because of having more schools. But basketball will be more available via linear platforms than it is now.
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They're also taking a bigger Big Ten inventory than they did before and they're most likely to increase what they get from the Big East (assuming ESPN doesn't press The Big East hard). There's still going to be tons of basketball on ESPN+ and that's perfectly okay. I'd much rather be on ESPN+ which has name recognition and people are familiar with than trying to start from scratch on Amazon or Apple. I'm also really interested in how well the Big Ten will do on Peacock.
 
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1UNI2ISU said:
They're also taking a bigger Big Ten inventory than they did before and they're most likely to increase what they get from the Big East (assuming ESPN doesn't press The Big East hard). There's still going to be tons of basketball on ESPN+ and that's perfectly okay. I'd much rather be on ESPN+ which has name recognition and people are familiar with than trying to start from scratch on Amazon or Apple. I'm also really interested in how well the Big Ten will do on Peacock.
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How does the B1G add more media partners and Fox ends up with more content? Or are the new media partners just paying for no content?
 
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Whatever, they are full pf schat. Good luck in the Pac 10.
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Wilner took the one quote that made it sound like Arizona is not interested in moving and put it as the headline. Remember, he is on the Pac 12 propaganda team. This is the biggest quote I saw in the interview.

“It’s heavily dependent on (commissioner George Kliavkoff) and his team negotiating a good media deal for us to stay competitive,” Robbins said.

He also mentioned the Big 12's strength in basketball must be regarded. There is zero commitment one way or the other. They want to see the media offer. If it is not where they expect, we may see some movement.

Also, the rumor was nothing is going to happen until after the national championship so it doesn't upstage March Madness. I bet after the NC game, we will either see the Pac sign a subpar media deal shortly after or a team or two start to bolt from the Pac.
 
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1UNI2ISU said:
They're also taking a bigger Big Ten inventory than they did before and they're most likely to increase what they get from the Big East (assuming ESPN doesn't press The Big East hard). There's still going to be tons of basketball on ESPN+ and that's perfectly okay. I'd much rather be on ESPN+ which has name recognition and people are familiar with than trying to start from scratch on Amazon or Apple. I'm also really interested in how well the Big Ten will do on Peacock.
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Also throw in that ESPN pumps out their brands/conferences, who is going to get the hype about PAC on Prime or Apple?
 
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Also throw in that ESPN pumps out their brands/conferences, who is going to get the hype about PAC on Prime or Apple?
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Yeah, part of why the PAC is where it is is a decade of not getting much exposure. Even if they hold together under a new contract, if that contract is heavy on low-visibility streaming, the conference will be so devalued that it'll probably collapse before the next deal
 
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Yeah, part of why the PAC is where it is is a decade of not getting much exposure. Even if they hold together under a new contract, if that contract is heavy on low-visibility streaming, the conference will be so devalued that it'll probably collapse before the next deal
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They’re all counting on getting that easy CFP to improve their brand.

If they do a 3 year deal, it does nothing but give streaming a few years to become more mainstream.

But PAC won’t be the conference of choice. At that point, I’d expect streaming vendors to go after major conferences.
 
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