Realignment Megathread (All The Moves)

Who said that about Texas? They were a massive outlier in the Big12. Also it’s Texas.

Again this is just the “I got cheated on so I expect everyone to cheat”

Won’t be able to change your mind but I’m shocked to hear you say that about texas
Texas people said for years they had no interest in the SEC because they didn't want to be associated with those kind of schools.

Not that anyone expected them to be loyal to the Big 12, but there was definitely a strong school of thought they wouldn't put themselves in a situation where they didn't have complete control, and many people within their ranks disliked the SEC due to the alleged cheating and their own (Texas's) academic snobbery.
 
Texas people said for years they had no interest in the SEC because they didn't want to be associated with those kind of schools.

Not that anyone expected them to be loyal to the Big 12, but there was definitely a strong school of thought they wouldn't put themselves in a situation where they didn't have complete control, and many people within their ranks disliked the SEC due to the alleged cheating and their own (Texas's) academic snobbery.
That’s kinda weird because outside of Texas the SEC has much better academics then the big12, especially on the top end.

But you know your conference better then I do so if you say those conversations happen I believe ya
 
That’s kinda weird because outside of Texas the SEC has much better academics then the big12, especially on the top end.

But you know your conference better then I do so if you say those conversations happen I believe ya
It was the blatant cheating and fan culture they were turned off by. Not just academic strength.

Either way, it didn't matter. Money matters.
 
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Yes. The era of blue bloods subsidizing the rest of us is coming to an end. Unlike some others here think, this is all about money
Those blue bloods can double/triple their existing payouts and retain their revenue advantages by agreeing to full FBS media rights pooling. Yeah, they would still subsidize FBS in doing so but the Feds will eventually force them to do it and everyone in FBS wins as a result.

The ones fighting it are ESPN and Fox and using Sankey and Pettiti as puppets in doing so.
 
That’s kinda weird because outside of Texas the SEC has much better academics then the big12, especially on the top end.

But you know your conference better then I do so if you say those conversations happen I believe ya
If memory serves, in the original form of the B12, you had 7 of the 12 member schools with AAU membership.

UT
AtM
Mizzou
KU
Nebby
ISU
Colorado
 
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Every channel has a value tied to it that providers like DirecTV Dish YoutubeTV etc pay to have that channel on their cable package. Sports rights are the most valuable. It’s why FOX and ESPN are always in disputes with providers before seasons starts. To raise that fee
So, it's then logical to see how the decrease in cable would significantly impact the reasons the B1G invited Rutgers and Maryland in the first place. Right? And, then wouldn't it make sense that revenue sharing will depend less and less on the city markets and more on the overall interest level no matter where they are?
 
If memory serves, in the original form of the B12, you had 7 of the 12 member schools with AAU membership.

UT
AtM
Mizzou
KU
Nebby
ISU
Colorado
Yeah that certainly looks different than when they left, even worse with 2 going to the SEC.

With Colorado coming back you have 3 left though. I forgot a bit about Kansas, they have to be one of the lowest academic schools for AAU now that Nebraska lost status.
 
So, it's then logical to see how the decrease in cable would significantly impact the reasons the B1G invited Rutgers and Maryland in the first place. Right? And, then wouldn't it make sense that revenue sharing will depend less and less on the city markets and more on the overall interest level no matter where they are?
Th increase in price of each household makes up for it
 
Who won't you find on the AAU members list today: Nebraska and ISU.
Correct. Between the school changes and ISU and Nebby leaving AAU, the academic profile of the B12 has taken as much of a hit as the athletics. Perhaps even more.
 
Correct. Between the school changes and ISU and Nebby leaving AAU, the academic profile of the B12 has taken as much of a hit as the athletics. Perhaps even more.
It's not quite a fair comparison as most of the Big12 schools now are land grants, and are ag/engineering type schools that kind of take all comers for students. That's their mission, they aren't meant to be Ivies.

And the places they backfilled with are smaller and less prestigious. That dilutes the academics too.

Luckily academics is nothing more than window dressing in these conversations about football TV money.
Great academics is like if your blind date is Scarlett Johansen and she also is wearing a nice pair of earrings - kinda nice touch but it doesn't matter because its already ScarJo and who are you kidding.
 
Does the academic profile of a conference matter any more? Why did it in the first place?

Just because you play sports against someone doesn't mean you have to collaborate academically - especially today.
 
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Does the academic profile of a conference matter any more? Why did it in the first place?

Just because you play sports against someone doesn't mean you have to collaborate academically - especially today.
I've always been of the opinion that the academic prestige of a school as completely seperate from the level of their athletics or their conference affiliation. But maybe I am an outlier in that regard.
 
I've always been of the opinion that the academic prestige of a school as completely seperate from the level of their athletics or their conference affiliation. But maybe I am an outlier in that regard.
It’s more of a who you associate with kinda thing. For a lot of people it doesn’t matter, but for many it’s very important.

The thing that often gets lost is that for many of the blue blood schools a huge chunk of the fan base that supports the program are the very people that the actual alumni don’t want to associate with and look down on.
 
Yeah that certainly looks different than when they left, even worse with 2 going to the SEC.

With Colorado coming back you have 3 left though. I forgot a bit about Kansas, they have to be one of the lowest academic schools for AAU now that Nebraska lost status.
Lets not pretend AAU is some measuring stick.

Its a good ol' boys club is all.

Oregon is still in there and they have Zero of the main Qualifiers. And their research dollars are tiny.
 
Yeah that certainly looks different than when they left, even worse with 2 going to the SEC.

With Colorado coming back you have 3 left though. I forgot a bit about Kansas, they have to be one of the lowest academic schools for AAU now that Nebraska lost status.
Kansas only stays in because they paid to throw their name on a hospital in metro KC.
 
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The B1G voting block is so big they can decide who does and doesn’t get membership at this point.
 
It’s more of a who you associate with kinda thing. For a lot of people it doesn’t matter, but for many it’s very important.

The thing that often gets lost is that for many of the blue blood schools a huge chunk of the fan base that supports the program are the very people that the actual alumni don’t want to associate with and look down on.
Exactly, a good ol boys club. Not something that really speaks to the quality of schools, or even their research production.

Only if you research the right subjects, and then if you are part of their cult, even those numbers dont really matter a la Oregon.