We needed a win and got one. That's good, but I thought it was a singularly un-impressive effort on the part of the Cyclones. A pretty poor Iowa team outscored our guys in the 2d half. If we play like this the rest of the way, we will not see a tournament berth and will be one of the bottom 4 teams in the conference. I did not see a big improvement in rebounding. Didn't see the numbers, but free throw shooting did not look good. We are much more talented and athletic than Iowa, we were at home with a week to prepare, we are much deeper than they are and yet, they beat us in the 2d half. I'd be very concerned if I were Coach Mac.
Post-game thread - ISU vs. Iowa
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The problem is that ISU let Iowa go on a 19-2 run at the end of the game. That is bad, I don't care who is on the floor for ISU. Iowa is a bad team, and if it would have been even an average team ISU would have lost, again. Look at the runs NW and UNI put on ISU to win at the end of those games. This team really needs to keep their heads in the game for the whole game.
It was still evident to me from this game that this team still does not have a lot of those intangibles that successful teams from the past have had. Plus still a lot of inconsistency, lack of organization, sloppiness, poor freethrow shooting, and questionable guard play. No Hilton magic yet either which is probably a function of how this team plays. Cannot get any sustained crowd excitement. All of these things will hurt us come Big 12 play I'm afraid.
On the rebounding:
The difference in the two rebound totals is that one doesn't include team rebounds (24-24 total) and the other does (29-27 total). Iowa had a 5-3 advantage in team rebounds.
The difference in the two rebound totals is that one doesn't include team rebounds (24-24 total) and the other does (29-27 total). Iowa had a 5-3 advantage in team rebounds.
Yes, Brackins and Dendy were both brought out (ie pulling of the starters with huge lead). Iowa goes on to drain 5 desperation 3's and we miss a string of FT's and voila game is closer than it should be.
Coach Mac did realize this and Brackins was put back in to make sure nothing stupid happened. I believe another player was subbed back out at the end too. (Boozer?)
You tell a team not to foul at the end and LET the other team shoot a contested but not tightly guarded three...common and good coaching. This happens all the time except Iowa nailed all 5 of them and we missed our FT's. That right there was the difference.
A close one? Did you watch the game? We were up 14-19 points the entire second half until the last 3 minutes.
Criticize Mac for letting up on them but as keep and 'pride said, that was more of a courtesy than anything.
With the last 3 loses, some of you will look for any excuse to trash this coach and this team. It's quite sad actually. We dominated our rival and people are complaining because they hit 4 threes at the end of the game. :no:
Agreed. We won, big deal, we had better win this game, Iowa is awful, not athletic, and not quick. They were still able to score in the paint, and out-rebound us on our home floor. I saw the same ISU team stand on offense and get out rebounded again, I fear for what might happen once Big XII play starts.
good all around game with exception of the free throws and DG not being able to finish. Things i noticed though....
DG- played good D, made good decisions for the most part, needs alot of work finishing at the hoop cause we will need those hoops in the big 12
Boozer-great hustling effort out of him playing lock down D
Christopherson- Solid role play, could score more but plays his role well
Brackins- great game but maybe needs to get tougher around the hoop
Dendy-looked great and cant wait to see more minutes out of him
Colvin- cant wait to see how he improves as he matures because his court vision and passing ability is sick!
Staiger-works hard on the defensive end without much athletic ability but the effort is there which is awesome.
Gillstrap-didnt force things and played within the team and still had a double double which is really encouraging as well
DG- played good D, made good decisions for the most part, needs alot of work finishing at the hoop cause we will need those hoops in the big 12
Boozer-great hustling effort out of him playing lock down D
Christopherson- Solid role play, could score more but plays his role well
Brackins- great game but maybe needs to get tougher around the hoop
Dendy-looked great and cant wait to see more minutes out of him
Colvin- cant wait to see how he improves as he matures because his court vision and passing ability is sick!
Staiger-works hard on the defensive end without much athletic ability but the effort is there which is awesome.
Gillstrap-didnt force things and played within the team and still had a double double which is really encouraging as well
Ummm, Iowa outscored ISu 19-11 in the final 5 minutes. There was NO 19-2 run.
Where are you finding a 19-2 Iowa run?
I like DG but I just don't see him "learning" how to finish. That's just a skill you have or don't have at this point. He's a good player but probably needs to always think pass first in any break or driving opportunity. To his credit he does make some very very nice passes.
I also thought Mac did a good job of making Iowa play our game. Sure Iowa got their typical sets and drained 30 seconds off the shot clock but we scored 81 points (and missed a layup and many free throws) against a team whose goal is to limit possessions by the other team.
good point....i get frusterated watching him shoot period and when he is in the lane yes.....he needs to look for a shooter! He had that wide open gimme layup in the last 2 minutes and just plain missed it. My buddy at the game with me said "hes not that bad at finishing" after that missed i grabbed his arm and just looked at him and he replied with "ok maybe i was wrong"
Exactly, I've seen this bite us in the *** too many times as an ISU fan. I'm not saying you have to keep pouring it on. But don't change up your game to save a little face on another team. It rarely happens to us and in the end it will bit us in the *** if we are looking for any kind of post season and people are seeing we only beat terrible teams by 8 points or so.
A win IS a big deal. Doesnt matter the opponent. Youre selling it short. If we would have lost, it would have been a BIG deal, so a win should be as well. The more variety of style we play the better off we will be. Yes they still need to work on things, but a win important.
Or with any team, but ISU need to play to the end no matter who is in the game. After Mac pulled the starters Iowa started taking quick shots, something the hadnt done all game. It was a weird ending on both sides.
You are right, the score didn't indicate that the game was completely under control by ISU. If I remember right, Gilstrap was taken out shortly after Brackins, right after he blocked (goaltended?) a shot?
I understand McD wanting to be classy and pull the power, but at this point we should be dickheads and just floor it. Its a double-edge, because you dont want to injure your best players in the closing minutes, but we need to send a message to everyone now. The bottom of the bench can wait.
DG does need to finish better but to say he needs to not shoot and look for others is wrong. DG is shooting 46% from the field. As a comparison, Brackins is shooting 48%, Gilstrap 46%, Lucca 44%, and his counterpart Colvin is shooting 37%.
Just because he misses a bunny or 2 doesn't mean he shouldn't be taking shots.
im shocked to see thats his FG percentage. Just seems like he misses everything i guess
