Didn’t you say a 1-loss Big 12 team would be left out? So it's not really apples to apples as we don't know exactly where a 1-loss team would be ranked.... probably in about the same spot as # 8 SMU.
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They're concerned they won't be able to fill the committee with patsies forever? The human element is their biggest advantage.The B1G and SEC have issues with the playoff committee? Really? What, having three non-B1G/SEC (and Notre Dame) teams taking up a full one-third of the playoff field is somehow unfair?
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I think the only way we get two is Az st wins and BYU goes. They have only two loses and miss out on a non head to head tiebreaker to us. Plus one of their loses is ASU.
Dont remember saying that. Maybe, but I think I said the B12 got more than 1 team in, would be if we had multiple 1 loss or better. So 2 undefeated teams going to the Championship, or a 1 loss beating an undefeated in the championship.
I dont think I have ever said the B12 would "NEVER" get multiple teams in, but it would be rare that it happens in the current form. Its just set up with so much bias and so much corruption to be anything close to a legitimate fair playoff.
KU wrecked the Big 12's chance to have 2 teams in the playoff. Same way that Syracuse damaged the ACC's chance to have 2 teams. It's no more complicated than that.
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BYU ought to be considered. But they won’t be. Warde Manuel made it clear the Alabama/Miami/Ole Miss/South Carolina bloc isn’t adjusting relative to itself since none of them are playing; there’s no way a BYU team several spots lower that also isn’t playing is going to jump all of them.
If UNLV wins. SMU wins. This is his pick.
If BSU wins and Clemson wins, his chaos scenario 1.
Chaos 2, all underdogs win. (although he has BSU in as a fav)
If BSU wins and Clemson wins, his chaos scenario 1.
Chaos 2, all underdogs win. (although he has BSU in as a fav)
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Also... Josh Pate and show, headed to B12 championship game.
I've been saying, and still say, it's likely a 1-loss Big XII team doesn't get an at large unless that 1 loss comes in the CCG. I still think that's right based on how the committee responded to ISU and BYU picking up their first losses this year.
For ISU:
We picked up our first loss right before the initial rankings in week 10, so we don't know how they viewed us at 7-0. But at 7-1, they had us at 17th. If we imagine we beat Kansas but everything else remains the same across the CFB landscape, the only teams who picked up bad enough losses for us to pass them are Ole Miss, LSU, TAMU, and BYU. That would move us up to 12th, which is right on the fringe of getting in depending on conference champ representation.
For BYU:
They were ranked 6th in week 11 at 9-0 but dropped all the way to 14th after losing in week 12. If we imagine they beat ASU and everything else remains the same, I think they only team they would have passed by is Ole Miss, getting them to 13th. Maybe they sneak past Bama, too, but I wouldn't count on it. Either way, that's again a fringe at large team at best.
An 11-1 Big XII team is not a sure-in at large team. It is what it is.
By that same logic, shouldn’t Oklahoma have wrecked Alabama’s chances to get in? The Big12 and ACC have a different set of criteria than the SEC. That’s the problem.
It's names. They feel OU is still a major player and contender, although Venebles has basically wrecked that team.
This is the flaw in the CFP committee. Names shouldn’t matter. Names only matter to the TV networks. And they aren’t supposed to be the ones picking the national champion. I understand that we all know this is the case, but it’s still ******** nonetheless.
I gotta agree with the SMU coach and fans. As the 8th rated team by the Committee, losing the CCG (13th game) shouldn't knock them out of the playoff. While teams rated lower like Indiana (#9) and Bama (#11) are sitting at home because they didn't make their CCG.
The reality is the Playoff Committee screwed up!! If SMU's CFP bid is at risk by losing the ACC CG, then the Committee needed to rank SMU #11 or #12. Then its non-controversial if they get bumped by Clemson and ISU/ASU winner.
The other reality is, if SMU's berth is at risk why isn't the Indiana Hoosiers. Their conference SOS was HORRIBLE and their non-conference schedule was a joke!
Below is win/loss conference records for playoff bubble teams:
Bama: 34-30 (.531) SEC record for SEC opponents. Plus played Wisky non-con.
Iowa State: 36-45 (.444) Big12 record for Big12 oppoents. Plus played Iowa.
Ole Miss: 26-38 (.406) SEC record for SEC opponents. Plus played Wake Forest.
SMU: 25-39 (.391) ACC record for ACC opponents
Indiana: 28-53 (.346) Big10 record for Big10 opponents
At least SMU played two P4 oppenents during their non-conference: BYU (7-2) and TCU (6-3). Plus Nevada (0-7) and Houston Christian (3-4). While the Hoosier didn't play a P4 school in their non-conference. Playing FIU(3-5), Western Illinois(3-5) and Charlotte(4-4).
The reality is the Playoff Committee screwed up!! If SMU's CFP bid is at risk by losing the ACC CG, then the Committee needed to rank SMU #11 or #12. Then its non-controversial if they get bumped by Clemson and ISU/ASU winner.
The other reality is, if SMU's berth is at risk why isn't the Indiana Hoosiers. Their conference SOS was HORRIBLE and their non-conference schedule was a joke!
Below is win/loss conference records for playoff bubble teams:
Bama: 34-30 (.531) SEC record for SEC opponents. Plus played Wisky non-con.
Iowa State: 36-45 (.444) Big12 record for Big12 oppoents. Plus played Iowa.
Ole Miss: 26-38 (.406) SEC record for SEC opponents. Plus played Wake Forest.
SMU: 25-39 (.391) ACC record for ACC opponents
Indiana: 28-53 (.346) Big10 record for Big10 opponents
At least SMU played two P4 oppenents during their non-conference: BYU (7-2) and TCU (6-3). Plus Nevada (0-7) and Houston Christian (3-4). While the Hoosier didn't play a P4 school in their non-conference. Playing FIU(3-5), Western Illinois(3-5) and Charlotte(4-4).
Wow. I have a feeling this is going to cause the SEC to force changes.
And the ACC got two but no bye and the. 11 and 12 seeds
It’s hard when you have 7 to 8 teams from 2 conference and you’re trying to get them to not play each other till the end
And the ACC got two but no bye and the. 11 and 12 seeds
It’s hard when you have 7 to 8 teams from 2 conference and you’re trying to get them to not play each other till the end
