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The Cuban is going to be ok. And 125 gets it too.

The three true freshmen on varsity are going to win a lot of matches for ISU.

Redding is going to be really good when he’s done. And imagine the Cuban in 2 more years with good nutrition, good weight training instead of seriously lifting bricks and chasing chickens and then having 2 more years to still wrestle?!?!?!

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Once Kysen decides to open it up and wrestle 7 minutes, he’s going to be dangerous. I see ceiling for him this year being R12, but the potential to be a 4 time AA (with the free year) is definitely there.

Redding will be a guy that will grind out a ton of wins. He seems very tough to score on. Might not have the full arsenal of attacks Kysen has, but he’s got a better gas tank right now and just knows how to win. Also he’s an extremely impressive mat wrestler for a true freshman.

Cam oozes potential. He’s a quicker/more athletic Degen. His length will cause 149 pounders a lot of trouble in the future. Hopefully one (maybe two) years scrapping with degen will help give him that gamer, win at all costs attitude that Jarrett wrestles with.

The Cuban has all the potential in the world. Just needs to stay the course, continue to adapt to life in the US/folkstyle and he’s got NCAA champ potential. This year and really next year are learning years. Once he’s a 23 year old sophomore, he could be scary good.

add on the 2021 class of Knopick, Paniro, Schon, and Greenlee and then the 2022 class is already off to a great start with the 2 Michigan kids. Definitely a time to get excited about the future of Iowa State Wrestling
 

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Once Kysen decides to open it up and wrestle 7 minutes, he’s going to be dangerous. I see ceiling for him this year being R12, but the potential to be a 4 time AA (with the free year) is definitely there.

Redding will be a guy that will grind out a ton of wins. He seems very tough to score on. Might not have the full arsenal of attacks Kysen has, but he’s got a better gas tank right now and just knows how to win. Also he’s an extremely impressive mat wrestler for a true freshman.

Cam oozes potential. He’s a quicker/more athletic Degen. His length will cause 149 pounders a lot of trouble in the future. Hopefully one (maybe two) years scrapping with degen will help give him that gamer, win at all costs attitude that Jarrett wrestles with.

The Cuban has all the potential in the world. Just needs to stay the course, continue to adapt to life in the US/folkstyle and he’s got NCAA champ potential. This year and really next year are learning years. Once he’s a 23 year old sophomore, he could be scary good.

add on the 2021 class of Knopick, Paniro, Schon, and Greenlee and then the 2022 class is already off to a great start with the 2 Michigan kids. Definitely a time to get excited about the future of Iowa State Wrestling
Redding definitely has some Parker to him. And that’s a very very good thing
 

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I get all the optimism you guys, i share in it. The young guys are truly impressive. But, I can’t help to still be extremely disappointed. Even if the young guys live up to potential, that is still another 2 years before we see it realized.

This was supposed to be the break out year. You have a legit title contender and 5-6 other guys that are AA contenders. Now we still have the one title contender, but maybe 2 other AA contenders. Just feels like a gigantic let down.
 
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I get all the optimism you guys, i share in it. The young guys are truly impressive. But, I can’t help to still be extremely disappointed. Even if the young guys live up to potential, that is still another 2 years before we see it realized.

This was supposed to be the break out year. You have a legit title contender and 5-6 other guys that are AA contenders. Now we still have the one title contender, but maybe 2 other AA contenders. Just feels like a gigantic let down.
This. I feel this. I still feel like Ian, Degen (depending on what looks like when he gets back) and Gremmel should be on the podium. Who knows with Sammy. But a let down for sure compared to expectations. Some of that is out of anyone’s control thoufh
 

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I get all the optimism you guys, i share in it. The young guys are truly impressive. But, I can’t help to still be extremely disappointed. Even if the young guys live up to potential, that is still another 2 years before we see it realized.

This was supposed to be the break out year. You have a legit title contender and 5-6 other guys that are AA contenders. Now we still have the one title contender, but maybe 2 other AA contenders. Just feels like a gigantic let down.

I would say we still have 4-5 AA contenders in Parker, Degen, Broderson, Colbray, and Gremmel. Losing Mackall and Gomez hurts, but those two freshman are very close to beating top 20 guys consistently and could make some noise if they make it to St. Louis. As for feeling let down, I'd say be patient and let's see how these guys develop over the next month. Honestly I'm just happy we even have a wrestling season to follow, and hope we get to finish the year with minimal COVID issues.
 

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I get all the optimism you guys, i share in it. The young guys are truly impressive. But, I can’t help to still be extremely disappointed. Even if the young guys live up to potential, that is still another 2 years before we see it realized.

This was supposed to be the break out year. You have a legit title contender and 5-6 other guys that are AA contenders. Now we still have the one title contender, but maybe 2 other AA contenders. Just feels like a gigantic let down.
We have no idea what type of product we are going to get in Colbray and Degen. Parker looks like he will AA along with a finals contender in Carr. That’s 3-4 AA’s this year if all the other young guys don’t produce. Not including Gremmel because hwt is stacked, I see him as a R12 this year.
 

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We have no idea what type of product we are going to get in Colbray and Degen. Parker looks like he will AA along with a finals contender in Carr. That’s 3-4 AA’s this year if all the other young guys don’t produce. Not including Gremmel because hwt is stacked, I see him as a R12 this year.

I agree that HWT has a lot of good wrestlers, but Gremmel is ranked 5th. Anything less than AA will be at least mildly disappointing.
 

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The 2 I have are Parker and Gremmel.

I have really liked the last 2 weeks from Broderson, but need to see him beat someone in that top 10 range before I put him as an AA contender.

Degen and Colbray I would have definitely had pre season, but it is February and they haven’t even taken the mat. Can’t expect anything from them at this point.
 

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The 2 I have are Parker and Gremmel.

I have really liked the last 2 weeks from Broderson, but need to see him beat someone in that top 10 range before I put him as an AA contender.

Degen and Colbray I would have definitely had pre season, but it is February and they haven’t even taken the mat. Can’t expect anything from them at this point.
No Carr?
 
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I must have missed it - where is Coleman ?
Bumped up to 197. Started the season injured. He's wrestled a couple of the extra matches to ease him in, but I don't know if he's been trying to challenge Bastida at all. I wonder if he's still a bit banged up.
 

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I agree that HWT has a lot of good wrestlers, but Gremmel is ranked 5th. Anything less than AA will be at least mildly disappointing.
It’ll all depend how things fall on the backside. Hillger and Kerkvliet are ranked behind him right now but 2 guys I could see beating Gremmel. Things will have to go his way to get a good matchup in R12.
 

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It’ll all depend how things fall on the backside. Hillger and Kerkvliet are ranked behind him right now but 2 guys I could see beating Gremmel. Things will have to go his way to get a good matchup in R12.

Not convinced Kerk will be going this year for PSU, but Seth Nevills is also a very tough heavy that would be ranked behind Grem