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I don't. I think the loyalty allowed ISU to underpay some of these guys, and now they're getting a more reasonable market value.
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If we go 6-6 next year we will be thrilled. If PSU and Campell go 8-4, their fans will be irate.
I'm most interested in seeing how good a Campbell defense without Heacock is.
ISU spent a decade essentially as a top 2 defense in the Big 12, even with UT and OU with the following NFL draftees:
Ewazurike (4)
McDonald (1)
Johnson (7)
Tampa (4)
Porter (3)
That's roughly every other year having one mid-round pick. That's amazing production vs. the talent.
Over that same period of time, we've had double the offensive guys get drafted, including a guy that might be a top 5 NFL QB and a top 5 NFL RB.
I don't think Matt bringing players over is going to cause any riff in and of itself. It's going to take some time for these guys to get to know each other and trust each other, but - by all accounts - the kids he's bringing with him are pretty high character guys that aren't going to set off a locker room.
What this is ultimately going to come down to is who Matt is playing. Using your LB example, if he's willing to sit some combination of Bacon, Ebel, and Brezina but current/other incoming PSU guys because they're just not the best players at that position I don't think this spirals into anything that negative. However, if he's playing them over guys that are clearly better than it's going to reek of nepotism and create resentment in the locker room.
It's like the coach's kid on your sports team growing up. If he/she was really an outstanding player and the coach was as hard (or even harder) on their kid than the rest of the team it's usually not a problem. It's when the coach's kid doesn't deserve the playing time they're getting and/or there is double standards from the coach where things get messy.
Thank God, I'm not average ... or younger than retirement.
Slim Jim’s and Pabst. We need a charmin with that combo.
What’s fair to say is, we need to see what Matt can assemble for a roster outside of ISU guys. They graduated a good chunk of their roster (25-30 seniors), have 37 in the portal and only have ~12 in their HS class. So far he’s added 20 from Iowa State. He still needs to add like 25-30 more guys. There are a handful of high end talents like you said, but he’s really going to have to show he can upgrade the supporting cast for those former ISU stars
Not going to be the same defensive philosophy...the DC that MC hired doesn't run the same system so it is basically apples to oranges. MC isn't dictating what type of defense to run...but he is responsible for hiring the guy who will make those decisions. No doubt Heacock was awesome here...but there are other very good DCs out there in college football. Why is it hard to think MC couldn't hire a 2nd guy who is solid?
Penn State hasn’t won a national title since 1986. Imo, the vast majority of the fan base isn’t expecting a national championship next year or even a CFP berth. I think the fan base would be generally satisfied with 8-4/9-3, which the ISU players can deliver. Year 2 and beyond is a different story, but he’ll have more opportunity to bring in additional talent at that point.
Now if Campbell went to Alabama and was bringing 20 ISU guys with him, he’d have hell to pay from day one. For sure.
The goal is a national championship, just like ours, but I don't think people in the real world expect a national championship, certainly not next year.
That's about as easy of a P4 schedule as you could ever get. Nothing in the noncon, probable lame duck coaches at Maryland, Wisconsin, Purdue. Brand new coaches at NW, Michigan. I guess Michigan and USC and Washington COULD be tough, but it's not like they are playoff contenders.
Maybe he already did. I think D'Anton Lynn was a really good hire who will help bring in high level D talent.
Nebraska hasn’t won a natty since the mid 90s but they still think of themselves as Championship contenders. Penn ST has made the CFP just last year. A game away from the championship. 8-4 means they lost to a Rutgers or temple level team. That will not be accepted there.
Braden Smith, OL from Tarleton commits
OL | Braden Smith – Tarleton State offensive lineman Braden Smith is set to visit Iowa State from Jan. 4-6. As a redshirt freshman, Smith was named an FCS Freshman All-American. He’s visiting Rutgers on Jan. 2 and 3
OL | Braden Smith – Tarleton State offensive lineman Braden Smith is set to visit Iowa State from Jan. 4-6. As a redshirt freshman, Smith was named an FCS Freshman All-American. He’s visiting Rutgers on Jan. 2 and 3
You're just splitting hairs to fit your opinion, oh they left early so it was different, our guys waited so it's different. We're going to end up with a bunch of WSU players, Campbell has a bunch of ISU players, either way they're both assembling new teams.
It will be ok in year one. Nebraska fans and Penn State fans are not the same, as someone knows several of both. And tbh, most Nebraska fans don’t think of themselves as championship contenders anymore
Braden Awls commits to Iowa State!
Just popped on to get a quick update on ISU portal news. And it appears Matt Campbell and Penn State have bought Cyclone Fanatic. Thanks a lot CW!!!
Did a quick count of the 31 most recent posts:
If you can't let it go, go to a PSU message board or start up an EVERYTHING PSU thread on this message board to vicariously drown your sorrows. Heck maybe the folks who NOW run Penn State Fanatic can come up with a catchy NIL T-Shirt. And maybe ISU AD can get some of the proceeds
Did a quick count of the 31 most recent posts:
- 26 are about Penn State or Matt Campbell
- 1 is about Crystal, Balls & Meth
- 1 is about being young and stupid
- 1 is about ASU debt forgiveness
- 2 MENTION ISU'S NEWEST PORTAL COMMIT CARTER PABST. Awesome news, we need more WR's
If you can't let it go, go to a PSU message board or start up an EVERYTHING PSU thread on this message board to vicariously drown your sorrows. Heck maybe the folks who NOW run Penn State Fanatic can come up with a catchy NIL T-Shirt. And maybe ISU AD can get some of the proceeds
