You really never understood anything with this old coaching staff, especially Campbell, did you?
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I stopped paying attention honestly after about 2021. Fill me in.
Fairly strong faith so they would have players that would emphasize it also.
Need more Satanist guys, they'd play to beat your brains out and not be nice to let the opponents hang around.
People have been known to have strong faith without having the Lord tell them where to play sportsball. Just saying.
Is this true?
You do realize that religion being relevant in any way to the recruitment and construction of a football roster at a large state university would be absolutely batshit insane, right?
lol, are you legit asking this? Seriously.
Yes, I’m legitimately asking this.
Your phrasing was fairly unambiguous, but maybe clarify?
In what way would religious beliefs of the staff relate to the religious beliefs of the players?
Tell me you know nothing about team sports,
especially football, without telling me.
when you hire/recruit people for a business, sport, group, whatever, you generally recruit people that will be similar. The general football community has had a tradition of stronger faith. ISU had a team Chaplain under the Chiz. Ever looked in the endzone when the players come out? You think they kneel down to check out the grass or take a nap in the endzone before the game? High schools I attended would have prayers. My sons did also, all player lead.
Many HS, college, pro teams will have group prayers before the game. Players are not forced to join, but when 2/3 the team does, many will at least stand with the prayer and put their hand in.
You notice that these players are following Campbell to PSU? They look up to this staff and follow their lead. Therefore a staff with strong faith will develop a strong faith culture in a program. They will adopt the same things their mentors believe and do.
If you even just watch you would notice a lot of these things or use common sense.
Regardless of your beliefs, if doing something comforts someone why **** on it?
More players that are suicidal. Just lay it all out on the field.Need more Satanist guys, they'd play to beat your brains out and not be nice to let the opponents hang around.
Cyclonepride
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With as good as our running back group was this year, I still think Flora deserved to see more touches.
He did a nice job with screens and swing passes. He has good vision and instincts in the open field. Need to get him the ball in open space.
Cyclonepride
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Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking, even line him up in the slot. With a guy like that, you just need to find ways to get him the ball.
Good to listen to Pete on Christmas Day.
I was a four year letterman in college. I’m the son of a coach.
Fun aside: A former ISU DL coach under Walden drunkenly tried to convince 12-year-old me that it was Johnny Orr pissing in my driveway one night when a van load of Cyclone coaches stopped by my house while my parents were gone.
It was actually a former Hawkeye forward who was a GA on Orr’s staff who couldn’t hold it (neither his piss nor the alcohol). In that coach’s defense it was dark that night, but come on…said former Hawkeye still had hair at the time. Seriously, even with all the drunken shenanigans Johnny’s voice would have cut through.
[ If I’m being open and honest my guess is he knew how excited I’d be at the prospect of Coach Orr pissing in my driveway, and took the opportunity to cheer me up. He knew it’d only been about a year before that my brother (a Big 8 champion for the Cyclones) was awarded his degree posthumously. ]
But yeah, maybe I didn’t spend enough time around sports?
Anyway, I know about Chizik’s ********. I was fully aware of Prohm’s ********. Maybe they both should have prayed harder? Or maybe Ol’ Jesus only gets you 2 wins and the rest are on you?
I knew Campbell had his hand slapped at Toledo for praying with his team. I chalked that up to him being young and maybe not having the strongest mentors.
Regardless, I got the sense he had the integrity to not just learn the lesson, but understand why it was important for him to keep his personal beliefs out of the work place. Particularly so given the peculiar power dynamic in college sports.
I also witnessed first hand the rise in overt religiosity and public/performative displays of “faith” in my hometown, and really across much of the midwest.
Even so, it would have been totally alien and jarring to see prayer before games in my time. Maybe it happened at Dowling or Pella Christian, etc, but I don’t remember it.
So maybe I am naive, but I assumed the game time prayer routines at ISU were just a byproduct of the prevailing socioeconomic conditions and impressionable kids trying on identities as they tried to make their way in the world, and not necessarily indicative of a coaching staff who doesn’t understand its roles and responsibilities at a public institution (or a workplace).
And since I’ve already droned on, are you seriously telling me religious views have come into play in hiring at a business you’ve worked at?
Not only is that very illegal, but dumb. I’ve personally been involved in hiring people of every imaginable background (religious, ethnic, nationality, etc). All that matters in my line of work is that you’re smart, hardworking, and keep your ego in check. If you tried to build a reasonably large team from any a single group in any other dimension you’d be at a huge disadvantage.
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You’re dumb if you don’t think certain beliefs and attitudes cant sway people in hiring. You just don’t click and that can be why.
I can tell you have serious issues with this subject and you are pushing it to a cave direction so I’m done on this topic.
Wasn't Prohm making the basketball team pray before every game? I remember hearing about it the first couple months he took over and it was causing some rifts right away in the locker room.
That’s a little much if so. If these guys want to do it on their own, great. Don’t stop them. If someone wants to sit it out. Fine.
Played basketball in high school and there were some kids pretty religious and our PG/captain was son of a pastor. He would lead prayer for those that wanted to participate. Others would sit out but tone down whatever else they were doing out of respect for their teammates. Really not hard.
