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[1SEIACLONE]

Still puzzling how wazzu was able to play a bowl game but the quitters in the last admin reported through their mouthpieces that it was impossible for Iowa state to play one...

Who was going to coach the team if they decided to play a bowl game? Most of the former staff went with Campbell to PSU. Do you really expect the new staff to come in and coach kids that they have not coached all year in a bowl game? The new staff is now trying to keep the kids that are already in the program, committed to the program or looking at players in the portal, but they are going to also have time coach players they have never worked with.

Well the former coaches could have stayed and coached the game, the former ISU coaches are in the same boat as our current staff, trying to find players for next season.

 

[CyDude16]

I know for a fact that at least one of the incoming recruits was. He didn't want to reopen his recruitment, but was "asked" to cancel his letter of intent and give up your scholarship and NIL deal you signed. Kid is out hundreds of thousands.

I use the term "asked" loosely because how are you going to respond as a 17 year old when the new GM you've never met calls you out of the blue to say this. You're not going to stick around to play for someone that doesn't want you.

Hundreds of thousands? Doubt it.

 

[CyDude16]

Still puzzling how wazzu was able to play a bowl game but the quitters in the last admin reported through their mouthpieces that it was impossible for Iowa state to play one...

The situations were differently, obviously

 

[Nmarieu]

If you follow the players on social media there are at least a couple (I saw Cummings-Coleman and Daniel Jackson) posting their tape. I assume that means they haven’t been invited to Happy Valley but still chose (or were asked) to leave ISU.

 

[NoCreativity]

The players allegedly decided they didn’t want to play.

Inmates running the asylum. Maybe the school should decide to take back some NIL money.

 

[xr4ticlone]

Here is the hard reality.

We had a bunch of quitters & WSU didn’t.

Jimmy sacrificed and left staff to coach a bowl…MC didn’t.

One of them felt bad about leaving & did something for the fans. One didn’t.

I can honestly say the following.

I was very happy with MC as HC.

I can’t believe anyone of character would want any affiliation with the fan base of pedo state. (James Franklin is an ass…so he didn’t shock me)

I am 100% convinced that Jimmy F’n Football will meet or exceed what MC would have done here during the next 5-10 years.

I base that not off hope, but off everything I’ve seen and read about him…and how a team he pulled out of his ass in Pullman Wa just played with that much heart and grit in that bowl game for his staff.

That gentlemen…is a winner.

 

[83Clone]

Who was going to coach the team if they decided to play a bowl game? Most of the former staff went with Campbell to PSU. Do you really expect the new staff to come in and coach kids that they have not coached all year in a bowl game? The new staff is now trying to keep the kids that are already in the program, committed to the program or looking at players in the portal, but they are going to also have time coach players they have never worked with.

Well the former coaches could have stayed and coached the game, the former ISU coaches are in the same boat as our current staff, trying to find players for next season.

Mouse or Heacock would have stayed and coached the bowl game, just like Bobbitt did at Wazzu. It's not that complicated

 

[qwerty]

A 70 percent pay raise is nice, but some context? If you were at a company for 35 years, your an old-timer like me. I'm early 60's and 5 years in was working Finance for a Fortune 10 company my salary was low $50's. So that raise would have been $35k. Sure, really good money.

Buy with P4 football players we could be talking hundreds of thousands or even millions of dollars. Reports are Rocco was making $1.5M at Iowa State last season. Does he get $3M+ at PSU? I would expect guys like Brahmer, Neal, Williams, etc. will get at least double what ISU would have been willing to pay.

Engineer, both jobs in Iowa, I was 30 +/- and single at time of offer. Offer location was similar setting (midsize city) but offered job and company weren't as stable nor nice. Also, it took me two hours away from family instead of 40 minutes. I LOVED what I was doing at the time, had a steady girlfriend and wasn't looking to move. Headhunter sought me out. Three years later, married a different woman, took different job (at same company) and moved to new house across town. Priorities change . . . .

 

[FallOf81]

Engineer, both jobs in Iowa, I was 30 +/- and single at time of offer. Offer location was similar setting (midsize city) but offered job and company weren't as stable nor nice. Also, it took me two hours away from family instead of 40 minutes. I LOVED what I was doing at the time, had a steady girlfriend and wasn't looking to move. Headhunter sought me out. Three years later, married a different woman, took different job (at same company) and moved to new house across town. Priorities change . . . .

But...but... did the marriage last?

 

[qwerty]

But...but... did the marriage last?

Going on 32 years . . . . I'm retired and she brings home the $ now.

 

[BigLame]

Here is the hard reality.

We had a bunch of quitters & WSU didn’t.

Jimmy sacrificed and left staff to coach a bowl…MC didn’t.

One of them felt bad about leaving & did something for the fans. One didn’t.

I can honestly say the following.

I was very happy with MC as HC.

I can’t believe anyone of character would want any affiliation with the fan base of pedo state. (James Franklin is an ass…so he didn’t shock me)

I am 100% convinced that Jimmy F’n Football will meet or exceed what MC would have done here during the next 5-10 years.

I base that not off hope, but off everything I’ve seen and read about him…and how a team he pulled out of his ass in Pullman Wa just played with that much heart and grit in that bowl game for his staff.

That gentlemen…is a winner.

A coach who was in place for several years who constantly & continually preached about culture had a team vote to not play in a bowl. Assistant coaches left with him, but did they have to? Could he have left enough in place so they could coach the team, one raised in this "culture", one last time & then ride off in the sunset? Apparently he couldn't pull that off.

Then there's a coach who went into a season as a head coach for a brand new team having to come up with something like 75% or more of a team's roster & guide it though a season after it's school left a conference which imploded & obtain a good enough record to secure a bowl bid. Then a job he had dreamed of opens so he takes it, but he's able to do so while leaving enough coaches intact as well as keep enough players for them to go out & dominate a bowl game & then ride off into the sunrise (he's heading East). The staff seemed confident & prepared to pull this off then went out & plain walked the walk.

Guess my trepidation has fully dissolved. Let's F ride

 

[FallOf81]

Going on 32 years . . . . I'm retired and she brings home the $ now.

ROCK ON!! CONGRATS!!

 

[xr4ticlone]

Going on 32 years . . . . I'm retired and she brings home the $ now.

My wife says I’m unemployable…and she’s a HR consultant…so she probably knows.

Haven’t retired, but own my own company buying and selling…I joke that I’m a trophy husband now.

It’s a good gig if you can get it.

 

[Steve]

Hundreds of thousands? Doubt it.

What doesn't seem clear is if the number thrown out is supposedly just NIL or also includes the value of the scholarship over 4+ years. Even if it is assumed to be all NIL, it would be a lower tier guy when you have $13M to shell out on the roster.

 

[clone52]

What doesn't seem clear is if the number thrown out is supposedly just NIL or also includes the value of the scholarship over 4+ years. Even if it is assumed to be all NIL, it would be a lower tier guy when you have $13M to shell out on the roster.

Lower tier? They can have 100 players on the roster. The average is 130000 per players. Hundreds of the thousands is not a lower tier guy.

 

[Steve]

Lower tier? They can have 100 players on the roster. The average is 130000 per players. Hundreds of the thousands is not a lower tier guy.

It was the amount claimed over a 4 year period. The average would be 520,000 just in NIL plus another 100,000+ in scholarship value. If he were middle or upper tier, the claim would have been over 1/2 million rather than hundreds of thousands. Sound like lower tier to me.

 

[clone52]

It was the amount claimed over a 4 year period. The average would be 520,000 just in NIL plus another 100,000+ in scholarship value. If he were middle or upper tier, the claim would have been over 1/2 million rather than hundreds of thousands. Sound like lower tier to me.

Ah, over 3 years then, it might be about average, maybe a little below or above depending on how many hundreds of thousands. Still pretty clearly middle tier.

 

[Stormin]

It was the amount claimed over a 4 year period. The average would be 520,000 just in NIL plus another 100,000+ in scholarship value. If he were middle or upper tier, the claim would have been over 1/2 million rather than hundreds of thousands. Sound like lower tier to me.

Let’s assume the top 10 real stars get 75% of the NIL. Rocco reportedly received $1.5 million last year for example. Big Citrus right up there also. So about $3 million would get split up amongst the bottom 90 players with the top of the those 90 getting more than the bottom.

If a HS recruit is getting hundreds of thousands from Iowa State then Matt Campbell would be taking the kid with him to Pedo State.

 

[2speedy1]

WSU had a skeleton staff remain behind to coach...same offensive scheme, same defensive scheme...we did not have that luxury. It was not possible to install all new schemes in a few weeks, nor could the new staff coach using the old schemes.

What in the hell are you talking about. ISU could have done the same thing wazzu did. Have the DC and others stay through the bowl. Heacock said he would do it. The rest of the staff for the most part would have stayed through the bowl, just like what wazzu did.

No one was going to install a new system. Hell they could have brought in Coach Mac, he would have learned the playbook and used what everyone knew, and kept the rest of the staff as interim, because they knew the system. But in the end that wasnt even necessary, and ISU could have done what every other team that has lost a coach before the bowl in history has done. Named someone from the staff as interim and continued.

This theory that no one would play, and there would have been no one to coach idea is complete and total BS. Hell even if some of the starters sat out, It would be great to get people like Moberly and Manske some experience, some of the others that are staying could really benefit from the experience of the extra time.

 

[BadBoi]

People would be really surprised how money is dispersed. Abu Sama was the highest paid player last season. Not sure about this season. I'd imagine it was Rocco.