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[xr4ticlone]

So your telling me you are 100% confident that if Matt Campbell offered Rocco $1.5M and an SEC, Big 10 or ACC school offered Rocco $3M, he'd be at ISU for 2026? Keeping in mind that Rocco already has his degree.

After schools courted CMC for over 5 years, I don't believe it's a coincidence Campbell jumped ship the year after the House Settlement. He saw the future and it's a future where players will follow the money.

After all, Campbell isn't the only coach creating a CULTURE. And some of those Culture schools have big money.

I think they’d stay. I think ISU + the coaches they clearly loved would be enough as those guys have families with money and common sense.

I really do think there were 3-5 jobs MC would have taken if they came along. Pedo st was inexplicably one of them due to being close to his home.

I don’t doubt his family’s health played a role.
I don’t doubt the $10m played a role.
I don’t doubt the daughter in college played a role.
I don’t doubt the stability of pedo state being established in a conference that appears to be already crowned a winner played a role.

That said, I think the next round or two of realignment will see some SEC & B10 teams being pushed out.

 

[RezClone]

Washington State versus Utah State is at 1 PM today!

Great scouting opportunity to see our new DC and likely several future Cyclones playing!

 

[BCClone]

I think they’d stay. I think ISU + the coaches they clearly loved would be enough as those guys have families with money and common sense.

I really do think there were 3-5 jobs MC would have taken if they came along. Pedo st was inexplicably one of them due to being close to his home.

I don’t doubt his family’s health played a role.
I don’t doubt the $10m played a role.
I don’t doubt the daughter in college played a role.
I don’t doubt the stability of pedo state being established in a conference that appears to be already crowned a winner played a role.

That said, I think the next round or two of realignment will see some SEC & B10 teams being pushed out.

Heacock was retiring. Always rumored that Broom was the next DC, so he probably goes knowing it will happen sometime at least. Campbell is stability and higher paychecks so I’m guessing he takes 40% of the staff at minimum. Now with Heacock retiring and some just moving on and we are down at least half the staff.

Campbell would have taken the players he wanted, one was staying that he takes in the long run, they wanted Campbell. So many of the top players are leaving. So we are left with a coach who lost half his staff, his top players and had limited connections to players to backfill. Not really a glowing situation if we keep Mouser

 

[Cyclonepride]

Moberly staying is awesome. Hope Manske does as well. Major Cantrell has looked electric in the little time we've seen him on the field, so if those three stay, I think we have a great quarterback room

 

[xr4ticlone]

This won’t stop until one of two things happens:

1) the networks stop making money on CFB or
2) the Big 10 and SEC somehow become disadvantaged

I don’t see any possible scenario in which the happens.

And yes, we’re a long way from the EA cover discussion.

One thing a lot of people ignore as well…ESPN is driving this mess, but they’re not making money.

I’m not sure anyone is given OSU lost $37m as an AD last year.

I don’t see any huge change in viewership making up those losses. Eventually they’re gonna stop paying…because the mouse pulls the plug, or a bankruptcy judge does.

You need bidders to drive up prices, you have to expect boards are also going to look at ESPN’s bottom line and realize what their programming people want to do makes no sense financially.

I think we’re closer to 2008 housing market collapse in sports than people realize. A hell of a lot closer than we are to $100m a year B10 media payouts.

 

[twincyties]

Heacock was retiring. Always rumored that Broom was the next DC, so he probably goes knowing it will happen sometime at least. Campbell is stability and higher paychecks so I’m guessing he takes 40% of the staff at minimum. Now with Heacock retiring and some just moving on and we are down at least half the staff.

Campbell would have taken the players he wanted, one was staying that he takes in the long run, they wanted Campbell. So many of the top players are leaving. So we are left with a coach who lost half his staff, his top players and had limited connections to players to backfill. Not really a glowing situation

I am in no position to speculate on exactly how many nor which ones, but agree there are a ton of assumptions being made that Mouser would have been able to keep the staff in tact. It surely would have helped but the degree to which it helped would be unknown.

 

[xr4ticlone]

Heacock was retiring. Always rumored that Broom was the next DC, so he probably goes knowing it will happen sometime at least. Campbell is stability and higher paychecks so I’m guessing he takes 40% of the staff at minimum. Now with Heacock retiring and some just moving on and we are down at least half the staff.

Campbell would have taken the players he wanted, one was staying that he takes in the long run, they wanted Campbell. So many of the top players are leaving. So we are left with a coach who lost half his staff, his top players and had limited connections to players to backfill. Not really a glowing situation

WSU has $2.5m NIL and no conference or media coverage. They’re UNI in 5-10 years imho.

What Jimmy did there is nothing short of remarkable imho.

We’ve got $, a conference, tv exposure, a fan base, a winning tradition of 10 years or more…we are light years ahead of WSU.

PLUS we are about to see a TP gold rush that we’ve never seen before imho. B10 & SEC can’t buy all of them. We’ve got a lot more to sell than most B12 or ACC teams. Look at our TV numbers & attendance. 95% of those schools won’t pay more than base NIL either.

IMHO JR is a heck of a coach from all reports. You can say he took over a powerhouse at SDSU…BUT he was hand picked to stay there and take over that program. It wasn’t an accident or by default.

 

[GTO]

One thing a lot of people ignore as well…ESPN is driving this mess, but they’re not making money.

I’m not sure anyone is given OSU lost $37m as an AD last year.

I don’t see any huge change in viewership making up those losses. Eventually they’re gonna stop paying…because the mouse pulls the plug, or a bankruptcy judge does.

You need bidders to drive up prices, you have to expect boards are also going to look at ESPN’s bottom line and realize what their programming people want to do makes no sense financially.

I think we’re closer to 2008 housing market collapse in sports than people realize. A hell of a lot closer than we are to $100m a year B10 media payouts.

ESPN is mitigating their losses by going to bed with DraftKings and other gambling companies. Now private equity firms are entering the sport to help conferences/teams keep up in the college sports arms race. This whole thing is a mess and a potential house of cards.

 

[BCClone]

WSU has $2.5m NIL and no conference or media coverage. They’re UNI in 5-10 years imho.

What Jimmy did there is nothing short of remarkable imho.

We’ve got $, a conference, tv exposure, a fan base, a winning tradition of 10 years or more…we are light years ahead of WSU.

PLUS we are about to see a TP gold rush that we’ve never seen before imho. B10 & SEC can’t buy all of them. We’ve got a lot more to sell than most B12 or ACC teams. Look at our TV numbers & attendance. 95% of those schools won’t pay more than base NIL either.

IMHO JR is a heck of a coach from all reports. You can say he took over a powerhouse at SDSU…BUT he was hand picked to stay there and take over that program. It wasn’t an accident or by default.

The post you responded to was in regards to keeping Mouser. I did edit it to include his name at the end. I am in favor of the JR hire and was against promoting Mouser.

 

[Stormin]

I am in no position to speculate on exactly how many nor which ones, but agree there are a ton of assumptions being made that Mouser would have been able to keep the staff in tact. It surely would have helped but the degree to which it helped would be unknown.

The players Matt would want would go with him. Just like now. We’d have an inexperienced 34 year old with 2 years OC with mediocre results. It would be difficult to establish a qualified staff. Matt would pick who he wants. Mouser would have been a poor choice. You rip the bandage off. Jimmy Rogers has done this. At Washington State. With $2 million. Complete roster rebuild.

 

[Cymark86]

Is it really worth it to do that to a kid with 85 open spots to fill?

This. If true, and there’s always more to the story, it’s a bad look. Not like Campbell was recruiting dogs. Kid had to have some skills. Probably easy to figure out who, but that doesn’t really matter.

 

[xr4ticlone]

ESPN is mitigating their losses by going to bed with DraftKings and other gambling companies. Now private equity firms are entering the sport to help conferences/teams keep up in the college sports arms race. This whole thing is a mess and a potential house of cards.

True…

BUT those are ‘sub prime mortgages’ and ‘CBO’s’ that will make things worse…not fix them.

How much of a world can we build on degenerate gamblers?

I’ve seen PE’s handy work up close and it’s remarkable in the ways the Holocaust and Keystone Cops were. Either a blood bath or a complete cluster **** with OPM.

Buffet’s right hand guy explained it well. You’ve got 3-4 PE / funds who are ass kickers. They’re not taking on new money…so you’ve got others that step up who suck, but get billions in funding because everyone at the CC has to be in a PE fund too.

Like those $450 rents, everyone lies about the actual results to save face.

I can tell you of 5-10 PE buyouts that were sold back to the original owners for .10 - .25 on the dollar lass than 5 years later.

 

[twincyties]

The players Matt would want would go with him. Just like now. We’d have an inexperienced 34 year old with 2 years OC with mediocre results. It would be difficult to establish a qualified staff. Matt would pick who he wants. Mouser would have been a poor choice. You rip the bandage off. Jimmy Rogers has done this. At Washington State. With $2 million. Complete roster rebuild.

This is surely the rationale JP was operating on and it’s difficult to argue with. Think this is where Blum was going on the pod talking about you so one or the other - the mixes/temporary fix rarely works

 

[Frog]

I believe that when Matt informed Pollard of his departure, he suggested that Mouser succeed him. This likely explains why Pollard had meetings with Mouser. Now, Matt feels the need to take Mouser with him out of "loyalty", even though I don't think he genuinely wanted him as the offensive coordinator there. Matt acknowledged one reason for leaving was that he had taken ISU as far as he could and needed to move on, as he was unable to win the championship here. Starting over is the right decision for Pollard in this situation. Overall, I believe that Pollard starting over is the right thing to do. We need someone to coach a win in that game.

 

[hurdleisu24]

This. If true, and there’s always more to the story, it’s a bad look. Not like Campbell was recruiting dogs. Kid had to have some skills. Probably easy to figure out who, but that doesn’t really matter.

If coach Rogers thought the kid wasn't a fit for his team, was it really the wrong thing to do to cut ties with him? I think it would have been more cruel to string him along without much hope and to get no film for when he transfers down the line.

 

[nhclone]

This. If true, and there’s always more to the story, it’s a bad look. Not like Campbell was recruiting dogs. Kid had to have some skills. Probably easy to figure out who, but that doesn’t really matter.

Yet Campbell apparently isn't offering him to come to Penn State either. Is it a worse look for the coach who signed him to the LOI 3 days before leaving and didn't ask him to come with, or the new coach who knows nothing about him and was honest about not wanting him here?

It's a ****** situation for all involved, especially the kid, but it won't be seen as the black mark on ISU many are making it out to be.

 

[Cymark86]

Rocco supposedly made $1.5 million last year. Stars get money. Unproven lower rated high schooler kids aren’t getting what you think.

So parents and a high school commit are giving intimate details of their NIL deal to a friend and that friend airs grievances on an anonymous message board. That’s a serious lack of judgement . Campbell has $30 million NIL. I am sure Campbell will give one of his ISU recruits more money to go to Penn State.

Isn’t part of the point of this board for stories like this? No reason to believe it’s NOT true. More reflective of the times we are in than anything else.

 

[Cymark86]

Yet Campbell apparently isn't offering him to come to Penn State either. Is it a worse look for the coach who signed him to the LOI 3 days before leaving and didn't ask him to come with, or the new coach who knows nothing about him and was honest about not wanting him here?

It's a ****** situation for all involved, especially the kid, but it won't be seen as the black mark on ISU many are making it out to be.

I agree. Think Campbell did similar to some of Rhodes recruits. SOP for coaching changes.

 

[MTCyclone43]

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Looks like another loser Pedo State University coach to me.

 

[Stormin]

Isn’t part of the point of this board for stories like this? No reason to believe it’s NOT true. More reflective of the times we are in than anything else.

Maybe no reason to believe it is true. At least completely true. On an internet messenger board you can be whomever you want to be. You can make claims of inside information that can be fabricated. The internet is filled with false information.