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[CycloneVet]

I have no idea if the story is true. But this kid was recruited by CMC. If he isn’t good enough for Penn State, CMC is a good reference for him. I’d guess, Matt or the member of the staff that recruited him could help him out. Win win for everyone.

If true, it does suck but it sounds like this kid is pretty good so should find a landing spot

 

[BCClone]

I have no idea if the story is true. But this kid was recruited by CMC. If he isn’t good enough for Penn State, CMC is a good reference for him. I’d guess, Matt or the member of the staff that recruited him could help him out. Win win for everyone.

If true, it does suck but it sounds like this kid is pretty good so should find a landing spot

There is no way that Matt didn’t have any idea that Penn St wanted to talk or hire him (and how their hiring had went, them talking meant an offer would come) when he was signing these kids, but no one seems to be getting mad at Campbell for signing these kids and then just saying, stay here I do t want you anymore. Now Roger’s is supposed to honor Campbell’s word but Campbell doesn’t need to.

The players that Campbell isnt offering to go to Penn St should be mad at him for signing them when he knew he probably wouldn’t be here.

Early signing period needs to be moved back a month to take care of coaching changes.

 

[CYDJ]

I'm sorry if I missed something here. But, let me know if I have this straight.

1. A young man committed to Iowa State to play next year and was promised NIL money to do so.

2. Our coach who made that decision decided to go elsewhere.

3. All players are allowed and encouraged to go "get theirs" wherever they can.

4. You commit to a "coach not a school."

5. The reality of college sports is it basically a pay for play game now.

6. No player cares about where they are playing. It is only about the $ / game. "Here's how to figure your ROI" young person.

So tell me this.

1. Who caused this ******* mess in the first place? It sure as hell was not ISU or Rogers.

2. Who should "do right" by this kid? What does "doing right" even mean in this era?

3. Why doesn't CMC offer this kid the NIL at PSU? Isn't he the one that the kid committed to? Shouldn't that fine upstanding citizen follow through with HIS committment?

4. Should we assume that once a kid signs with ISU that the kid should "do right" by ISU? Sure as hell doesn't sound like that is a "requirement" anymore.

5. It sucks that this is the era we are in. But, that kid was going to get six figures to play a ******* game. Big Boy money, Big Boy problems. Wanna be a pro? Be a pro, sign a real contract, follow through. The same stupid "no rules" mentality that got us here and made it possible for the young man to get paid to play a game at an institution of higher learning is the one that caused the "lack of honor" B.S. we are discussing here. Honor is EXPENSIVE and those with the biggest piles of cash aren't even investing in it. It WAS a nice thought in the old days. Sorry, there is just no market for it any more.

6. This era stinks. No one cares about anything. There are NO rules, there is NO honor, only money. Once we lapsed into this cesspool all basic rules of civility went out the door. I don't like ISU looking bad and not doing what is "right". But, until ANYONE does what is right by ISU, I'm going to say that ISU is just existing in the era and playing by the new rules, not somehow leading the downfall of society.

 

[fsanford]

I would love for a Rocco to transfer to Iowa, then we could turn the new defensive scheme on him. I am ready for all of the non- Cyclone faithful players be jettisoned so we can get on with business of rebuilding Iowa State football. "If you are not with us- you are against us."

So the problem with that is Iowa runs the same offense that, it sounds like, Rocco did not want to play at ISU.

 

[NoCreativity]

This thread is a dumpster fire. The sport is broken beyond all repair.

 

[BCClone]

I'm sorry if I missed something here. But, let me know if I have this straight.

1. A young man committed to Iowa State to play next year and was promised NIL money to do so.

2. Our coach who made that decision decided to go elsewhere.

3. All players are allowed and encouraged to go "get theirs" wherever they can.

4. You commit to a "coach not a school."

5. The reality of college sports is it basically a pay for play game now.

6. No player cares about where they are playing. It is only about the $ / game. "Here's how to figure your ROI" young person.

So tell me this.

1. Who caused this ******* mess in the first place? It sure as hell was not ISU or Rogers.

2. Who should "do right" by this kid? What does "doing right" even mean in this era?

3. Why doesn't CMC offer this kid the NIL at PSU? Isn't he the one that the kid committed to? Shouldn't that fine upstanding citizen follow through with HIS committment?

4. Should we assume that once a kid signs with ISU that the kid should "do right" by ISU? Sure as hell doesn't sound like that is a "requirement" anymore.

5. It sucks that this is the era we are in. But, that kid was going to get six figures to play a ******* game. Big Boy money, Big Boy problems. Wanna be a pro? Be a pro, sign a real contract, follow through. The same stupid "no rules" mentality that got us here and made it possible for the young man to get paid to play a game at an institution of higher learning is the one that caused the "lack of honor" B.S. we are discussing here. Honor is EXPENSIVE and those with the biggest piles of cash aren't even investing in it. It WAS a nice thought in the old days. Sorry, there is just no market for it any more.

6. This era stinks. No one cares about anything. There are NO rules, there is NO honor, only money. Once we lapsed into this cesspool all basic rules of civility went out the door. I don't like ISU looking bad and not doing what is "right". But, until ANYONE does what is right by ISU, I'm going to say that ISU is just existing in the era and playing by the new rules, not somehow leading the downfall of society.

the problem is the revenue sharing. NIL is just the money that came through the back door is now coming through the front door. It made it easier to buy teams with one wealthy donor.

The revenue sharing was based on the top conferences getting 70MM of media money. The next two biggest conferences are pulling 30-40MM less, which is nearly 2x the RS amount. It would t have been so bad if it was staggered in but to hit at once when many schools already have a tight budget hurts.

Now some states will just foot the bill since they have been doing it already, Iowa is not a state doing that. Although we have sports betting which could easily pay 1/4 to 1/2 of the RS if he went from the lowest taxed state to a higher. I’m not a big tax person but this seems to be an area that feeds itself.

In the end if you want to hate on someone, you can pick Jordan Bohannon since he was one of the main guys pushing this stuff.

 

[isufbcurt]

That tells me everything I need to know about you.

Here's what you need to know about me - I walked on at ISU because it was my dream to play college football, worked my ass off so I could eventually play special teams and was lucky enough to earn a scholarship. And if I was 18 now I'd do it all over again without any regard for NIL crap because I loved playing football.

 

[nhclone]

In the end if you want to hate on someone, you can pick Jordan Bohannon

Done

 

[cybychoice]

So since WSU plays at 1PM today can we assume that most of the players coach wants from there will be in the portal by 5pm? Or has he basically already gotten the few he wants into the portal and is planning on shopping around to fill out the roster?

 

[Die4Cy]

In the end if you want to hate on someone, you can pick Jordan Bohannon since he was one of the main guys pushing this stuff.

As if any of us need a special reason to hate on Jordan Bohannon.

Just add it to the list.

 

[nhclone]

So since WSU plays at 1PM today can we assume that most of the players coach wants from there will be in the portal by 5pm? Or has he basically already gotten the few he wants into the portal and is planning on shopping around to fill out the roster?

Might not be that fast but there will be more. Guys that went from SDSU that haven't entered yet (would expect at least a couple to follow him back to the midwest):

Trey Ridley, Safety
LB Carsten Reynolds
DL Fernando Lecuona

That doesn't include the 50 or so from other schools that also went with him to Washington State.

 

[clonehenge]

I have no fist hand knowledge of NIL terms. Not my business. What I was told is that Rogers did not deliver the news. I know he was committed and was asked not to be. I don’t know what’s “speculating” about that.

It’s pretty straight forward. If he wanted to reopen his commitment he would have simply done so. That is extremely common for these kids to do. A good portion of the class appears to have done it.

It makes zero sense to make up some story to your family and friends about this when it would have been way more convenient to just say “I wanted to play for Campbell and he’s gone so I’m going to go look at other schools”.

I still don’t follow the conspiracy here.

Rogers had no previous relationship with the kid so it’s not surprising he didn't deliver the news.

It is literally the job of the GM to handle the personnel side of things. They’re managing the dirty details of putting a roster together (which includes recruit relationships and NIL) so the coach doesn't have to deal with that. That's why coaches hire them.

I agree it's a crappy deal for the kid. But I also understand why Rogers wasn't the one to break the news because he had no previous relationship with the kid and the GM is the one to handle those types of things. Did he handle it properly? Maybe not, but we really don't know what was said.

And my guess is they already have one or two recruits that had committed to Wazzu at the same position that are going to now come to ISU.

I feel bad for the kid but it really is on Campbell, not Rogers. Why isn't Campbell taking him to PSU?

 

[xr4ticlone]

I’m guessing this is the same situation my buddy got caught in at Rice. OL better for a pass first O got caught with a new coach wanting a run first O.

Exact same as he was an early grad and found out weeks before he was to be on campus at in January.

Was offered a ship for fall at MI St, lasted 3 days in the cold in the MN CC they hid him at before coming home. Walked on @ A&M for 3 years before getting hurt and giving up FB.

In the end it all worked out…got hit by a train and became a multimillionaire.

The Lord works in mysterious ways. Lol.

 

[Stevetasker]

This HS kid has a deal worth hundred of thousands already. Supposedly.

Revenue share is $13,000,000/105 players for football. Doesn’t seem like a stretch for a player to be told they would be paid several hundred thousand over 4 years.

 

[ripvdub]

Moberly staying per his twitter.

 

[BCClone]

Revenue share is $13,000,000/105 players for football. Doesn’t seem like a stretch for a player to be told they would be paid several hundred thousand over 4 years.

Use 85 since we are only doing that many scholarships and I believe the RS is only going to the scholarship players.

 

[CoachHines3]

Moberly staying per his twitter.

 

[Die4Cy]

This is a good sign that new staff evaluations are done and everyone all around knows where they stand going into Christmas.

 

[Clonelabdad]

Rogers had no previous relationship with the kid so it’s not surprising he didn't deliver the news.

It is literally the job of the GM to handle the personnel side of things. They’re managing the dirty details of putting a roster together (which includes recruit relationships and NIL) so the coach doesn't have to deal with that. That's why coaches hire them.

I agree it's a crappy deal for the kid. But I also understand why Rogers wasn't the one to break the news because he had no previous relationship with the kid and the GM is the one to handle those types of things. Did he handle it properly? Maybe not, but we really don't know what was said.

And my guess is they already have one or two recruits that had committed to Wazzu at the same position that are going to now come to ISU.

I feel bad for the kid but it really is on Campbell, not Rogers. Why isn't Campbell taking him to PSU?

The kid from CA that already committed is a WR. Their only other WR commit at WSU isn't anywhere near our WR quality.

The Pabst kid might be OK as a transfer. A decent player but nothing special.

 

[Stormin]

As long as a person is pumping ******** to prospects there will be prospects that believe that ********. And Matt Campbell and staff were telling that prospect this? Then they aren’t being honest. Or the prospect is imagining it. If we are paying lower ranked OL prospects that kind of money we are not spending wisely.

Rocco was taking $1.5 million per year. Other stars were well paid. I’ve heard there is a base compensation for the non stars.