For wins it will be better for ISU to be in the lower level, the problem arrises when the media funding is not going to be anywhere near what we currently are getting. We think it bad now, that will make it worse for all at the schools that do not make the cut.
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I don't see any way this is only 32 when Big 10 and SEC are already at 34 between the two of them. Unless you're willing to break up these conferences which seems unlikely.
I've really only been arguing semantics with you. Schools are going to abide by the $20.5M figure, but corporate NIL deals will still be a thing & will still benefit the haves vs the have nots. I'm not arguing the revenue share is going to fix anything. I agree it's all f'ing college sports, and hope there's something that will eventually fix it (whether that's a union or something else).
If ratings (and ad revenue) go down 20%, but costs go down 40%...
Plus you can bet that TV execs think that fans of left-behinds and casuals will join over time. And they might be right, who knows.
Whether they will or not is the $64,000 question, I highly doubt if ISU is left out that many Cyclone fans are going to switch their loyalty to EIU, just because they got to stay in the big boy club. Their only hope will be attracting new fans that were not a fan of one of the left out teams when it occurs. This will take years, you may end up with a UNI type of situation, where lot of UNI fans support both teams, unless they play each other.
I can tell, you really don’t know what Unions are about. As a past Union President who negotiated contracts. You don’t try and break the company. You know why? Because you won’t have a job any longer. You try and balance getting a raise and benefits that are fair for both sides. You don’t want to take advantage of your company nor do you want to be taken advantage of. During negotiations you have 3 sets of numbers. 1. Is the top of the line deal… If you get that unbelievable but it still doesn’t kill the company. 2. Numbers that are lower but what you fight tooth and nail for. 3. Is the numbers that are the lowest your membership will go.
If you can’t make a deal then you go to arbitration. When addressing an arbiter the numbers you present must align with other union workers doing like minded work have received in prior negotiations. If a different union went from $32.00 an hour to 34.50 an hour. It would be ridiculous to go to him requesting 32.00 to 39.00. Unless you can show that we may do like minded work but we do x, y and z more.
I also suspect that you don't negotiate in a way where 10% of the workers get paid 5x what the rest of them do. Which is exactly what is going on in college sports.
Totally agree. I was just talking to the guy that thinks unions try and break the bank. A lot of people try and demonize unions. I’ve been around a lot of union officials and just about every one of them have the same motto, “a fair day’s wage for a fair day’s work.”
If they get their Big 10/SEC wet dream, they're going to create huge dead zones in interest geographically and lose interest in college football overall. I don't see any way possible that brings more fans to the table. It could only mean less.
The NFL is successful in part because it has a comparatively small number of teams and because there is far more parity in the sport.
I also don't see how relegating Big 12 and ACC caliber schools to a D2-like level is going to drive additional revenue. The chances of them watching any more college football than they do is low. The chances of them watching less is high.
I see why the Big 10 and SEC want it (because they don't want competition), but I think the networks would be reluctant to do this and they're the ones footing the bill.
To your point, putting your employer out of business is just cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Most of our players are only well known in Iowa (and maybe some border areas). Most would be little known in Happy Valley, so Rocco would be a great spokesperson for say Stu Hansen, but I would think not so much for a dealer in Central Pennsylvania. Does FMV take that into account, or is it based just on the position the player plays??
This is TBD. Those of us that are jaded expect this to be completely abused. Those that are more optimistic think this will help slow the pure "pay for play" that we know today.
Also, if Rocco does leave for PSU, their starting quarterback is going to have immediate recognition.
I'd add one caveat. It doesn't apply in all cases and I'm not saying it won't be abused, but going forward you're going to need a business and a purpose to give them money. Right now, all you need is money. If I won the lottery and have tens of millions I can't just cut a check to the starting QB anymore.
The more teams that "disappear" in college the worse off they will be. I think those fans would rather follow the NFL than a random team in college. What makes college great are the regional and school ties.
But the next time logic comes in to play in these deals will be the first time.
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Of course having an in-department endorsement shop allows the athletics department to basically establish what a fair market value for any player would be, largely putting it under the control of the football coach. If CMC wants Rocco to get some amount to come over, CMC and the player can negotiate it out and then the endorsement office can just put its rubber stamp on it by saying major endorsements by QB's will be X amount and have a booster business pay it. This would largely clear up the FMV question the clearing house would have while keeping it in line with the objectives of those building the football roster.
We're all going to watch the super league according to this former Fox guy (about the 19:30 mark).
It’s over. With Rocco entering the portal, the floodgates are about to open.
It was fun while it lasted.
It was fun while it lasted.
