When Taylor entered really early I assumed he’d go to a Florida school. Could easily see him at Miami since his uncle played there
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I think a lot of schools that are offering high NIL "packages" to new coaches have likely already secured the individual opportunities with corporate and individual "donors". They may spend less than before but I assume they have already made arrangements to have many of these deals ready to go through the clearinghouse.
So boosters only have to collectively agree in advance on an additional pool they would fund through their businesses in order to clear NIL-Go. Then just decide who gets which endorsement once the football coach promises it to the player? Sounds pretty pay-for-play to me....
Not really when some schools are promising their coaches they have separate inhouse NIL funds to pay players.
Campbell got a $30M annual commitment from PSU. And I'd bet there are around 20 P4 programs making similar or higher investments.
There needs to be better guardrails to prevent the runaway spending in CFB & MBB. I don't know if CBA, sport spending caps, employee status, etc. are solutions. But pro sports structures are probably worth considering.
A portion of it is from the Penn State rev share and a portion is from NIL deals they have lined up. They'll have a certain number of companies committed that say "we'll donate $X to whichever players you tell us to." Then the coaches find the players and say "here's your man." It is not all coming directly from the University, since it can't, but at other schools the University is lining them up for the athletes.
That's spin!
The people raising the NIL money are being paid by the University. If the athlete would leave said school, do you think the NIL deal would remain in place? Very doubtful.
IMO NIL should be sourced by the players agency/agent and schools should be prohibited from having a role.
Correct/agreed on both points. It’s semantics really, but that’s how aggressive schools are playing the game under the current rules.
Which makes the so called cap a joke.
They just have found another way around the so called rules. And there is absolutely no one in control.
NIL and the Portal are ruining college sports, without better controls in place.
All it has done is brought the bag man out of the shadows, and instead just rubs him in everyones faces. All this has done is made it ok to buy players, buy teams etc. How long before we see some big booster paying players big money then forcing them to shave points etc. There is just too damn much money involved and no actual control. There is theoretical guardrails, but everyone is just finding more ways to skirt them and no one is enforcing any kind of rules.
This is going to be the next rub between coaches and ADs. And this may have been part of the rub between Pollard and Campbell.
Everyone knows the school can only do revenue share (let's call that pay for play) up to $X. Then you have a tecnhically unlimited cap "outside" of that with Name, Image, Likeness opportunities.
Coaches are not going to spend their time nor their staffs time on this. They will expect the university to participate on their behalf. Universities are going to push back because it's going to cost them to build out this infrastructure.
It's so easy for a business to tell a school "we've set aside $1M in NIL for your starting QB or power forward on the basketball team". This will be abused, no doubt. It's a huge, gaping hole in this construct.
The only guard rail left is going to be the clearing house and what they deem "fair market value". There is a well established market for social media impressions. It's not scientific, but it's also not a complete unknown. If they're like "yeah, Rocco made a couple of posts for ABC Company to his 25,000 followers on IG and ABC company paid him $2M. Nothing to see here." we're back to exactly where we started.
Everyone knows the school can only do revenue share (let's call that pay for play) up to $X. Then you have a tecnhically unlimited cap "outside" of that with Name, Image, Likeness opportunities.
Coaches are not going to spend their time nor their staffs time on this. They will expect the university to participate on their behalf. Universities are going to push back because it's going to cost them to build out this infrastructure.
It's so easy for a business to tell a school "we've set aside $1M in NIL for your starting QB or power forward on the basketball team". This will be abused, no doubt. It's a huge, gaping hole in this construct.
The only guard rail left is going to be the clearing house and what they deem "fair market value". There is a well established market for social media impressions. It's not scientific, but it's also not a complete unknown. If they're like "yeah, Rocco made a couple of posts for ABC Company to his 25,000 followers on IG and ABC company paid him $2M. Nothing to see here." we're back to exactly where we started.
Or lack of them.
I just wish there was a date on the calendar we could look forward to that we knew all this craziness would be over if Iowa State could hold on that long. I thought maybe it was when the House settlement went into effect and the collectives went away. Clearly not.
lol, how many times are you going to meltdown? The flood hasn't even started yet, only 6 players have announced they are entering the portal, and I think only 1 of them was on the depth chart at the beginning of the year.
I think this depends on what you consider a "collective" under this new model. And all of this goes back to the difference between revenue share/NIL and what is/is not just "pay for play".
When people can accurately draw those distinctions everything makes more sense and the conversations that follow are far less of a mess.
For sure, it's slowed things down somewhat, in the sense that you can't just have a Cody Campbell write a check for $40 million, and there is at least a hoop they have to jump through now, but it's a long ways from the format most (or, at least, I) hoped would come out of the settlement.
I think you're forgetting that it's super important for guys like Cody Campbell to get a ton of attention so that they can show how rich they are. Those egos don't stroke themselves.
It's getting harder and harder to emotionally invest.
I'm also hopeful - perhaps naively so - that these players opting out of bowl games and now even the f**king playoffs - might cool some heels here. Peterson from KU (realize this is a football thread, but still relevant) just decided to shut down the entire season according to some $hit on the internet. Let's assume for sake of discussion this turns out to be true. Imagine stroking a check for $2M and the guy packs it in before you even get to your conference schedule.
Does it competely stop the flow of money? No. To point above, a lot of this is about ego and emotion. But maybe it slows it down a bit.
Does it competely stop the flow of money? No. To point above, a lot of this is about ego and emotion. But maybe it slows it down a bit.
Ed Oregon said it best on BWTB how he would adapt to NIL ‘well, now we just bring money in the front door vs the back one’
And it’s gonna be harder to trace because nothing will stand out about a kid with a new car or Rolex.
Finally, keep in mind that the U’s drumming up this NIL money for players are doing it at a cost of staff…but also a loss of that donation potentially going to the U. These donors aren’t an infinite money machine. Your QB might have cost you the remodeling funds for a building, or the funding for a school.
All of this is happening while education costs skyrocket, the ROI tanks, and the amount of administrative bloat runs amuck.
And it’s gonna be harder to trace because nothing will stand out about a kid with a new car or Rolex.
Finally, keep in mind that the U’s drumming up this NIL money for players are doing it at a cost of staff…but also a loss of that donation potentially going to the U. These donors aren’t an infinite money machine. Your QB might have cost you the remodeling funds for a building, or the funding for a school.
All of this is happening while education costs skyrocket, the ROI tanks, and the amount of administrative bloat runs amuck.
The whole point of this $20 million was to reign in the spending, but now its only what the university will spend, and NIL is somehow outside this money and can be spent on top of it. So which is it, a hard cap, no school can go above the $20 million and all deals must be approved by this clearinghouse. Or is the $20 million the floor to get into the game, and then NIL deals above all of it?
People on here have been stated this House deal is some how going to fix the system. Many of us think just the opposite, its all for show and will be nothing more than a barrier to get into the game, a buy-in, and then NIL will continue to flow like it currently is. I hope you are correct, and I am totally wrong, but this is money and sports, but keep hoping and believing you are correct.
I think it will be more of a floor than a ceiling in reality, price to pay as a P4. Not everyone will be able to afford it. I wouldn't want to know what that looks like in 5 years for those that can't. They will get absolutely gutted. I always try to remember that not all places are equal in this era. Quite a few schools have the media money alone to cover revenue share. ISU doesn't have the income to do that, but can make it work for awhile. They kinda have to.
Agree it's both a cap and a floor at the same time, depending how you look at it. It's a hard cap on the revenue share from the university (I'd still call this pure "pay for play"), but it's going to be the starting point with outside NIL for anyone that wants to be competitive (whether this is true NIL by definition or a different variation of pay for play will depend on enforcement).
Maxing out revenue share is going to be table stakes. Winners will emerge on the NIL side. The latter is also where we'll see the f**kery happen (namely different programs with different interpretations of the rules).
Maxing out revenue share is going to be table stakes. Winners will emerge on the NIL side. The latter is also where we'll see the f**kery happen (namely different programs with different interpretations of the rules).
