At ISU the same time as you. Earl Bruce didn't do poorly at his next school (4 B10 Championships in 10 years), but not enough to satisfy big heads. But, what wasn't emphasized is how far Criner and Duncan brought our program down. Thus, by comparison, Bruce retained a longer leash of notoriety. If Rogers does well, I suspect CMC will become an afterthought quicker than most people may realize. But, like Bruce, if Rogers performs akin to Duncan or Criner, CMC's legacy will grow.
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That's not going to happen. JP isn't cutting him after a couple years.
I don't know if the new staff told guys to head to the portal in every case. But I do believe in their sit down with Rogers he would have told them how he sees them being used going forward, and the GM would simultaneously give them an idea how they would be valued for that under ISU rev share distribution. Players would then have information to decide, even if ISU would want them back. Because this is the first time players have had the option to transfer for rev share at another school, I believe many are not acting with complete information other than what they would be getting from ISU.
My money is on being more worried about Rogers getting poached in a few years than worried JP keeps him another season.
But unless there is a P2 super league coming I’m confident ISU will be fine either way.
What Bruce did at ISU was nothing short of impossible. Not only the money advantage for the Nebraska's and Oklahoma's.......but there was no scholarship limit. Those schools stock piled all the studs and KEPT them for 4 years. Remember "red shirts"?
I doubt Campbell would have survived much more than a few seasons at ISU against those odds.
Then he'll no longer be a Cyclone.... so I won't care about him anymore. Why is this so hard for people to understand?
I feel like the roster decimation is kinda ideal for Rogers.
Anything better than 4-8 next year should be seen as a success.
This is not unique, to ISU. Rogers had to bring in something Like 70 new players at WSU, last year. WVU did last year too, and are on pace to lose a ton this year even without a new coach. Coach Prime had as many or more his first year. UNC brought it basically the entire roster too, I believe.
Hell, there are a lot of schools that are losing dozens of players, and have lost dozens every year, even without a new coach. ISU has been mostly insulated from it, up to this point, but this is how it is now.
Coaches have no loyalty, players have no loyalty, its all about who has the biggest bag. The transfer portal is all about getting that next big pay check. You have boosters pretending to pay players for NIL deals when it is just paying to play. You have a so called cap that means absolutely nothing. You have a transfer portal with no actual control, so anyone can go to the highest bidder. You have rules like no contact outside the portal, where no on follows, and uses under the table, back doors to contact players to get them in the portal and offer them big deals. And absolutely no one in power that can or will do anything about it.
Its strange to me when you hear of players passing up on deals to stay at ISU etc, when they were never in the portal, and by rule they should not have had such offers or deals by rule, because they are not supposed to be contacted until they enter said portal.
College sports are taking all of the bad aspects of pro sports on, with none of the rules or controls that pro sports have to control them. It is destroying college athletics and I am not sure we will ever get that genie back in the bottle.
I'm assuming at least a slow start to the season but we should be kind of used to that.
1973 scholarship limits of 105 put in place. 95 scholarship limit in 1978. Unlimited number of walkons
Good question.
Has been to Colorado, East Carolina, and ISU, so now.....
According to 24/7 he caught 28 of 55 targets. So, catches about 50% of the balls thrown to him.
I hope you're right... but don't count on that just yet. I don't think Palano or this guy would have started for us this year, and might have been 3rd string?
I hope CW is right that most of these WSU guys will be depth, but the starters will be coming in the portal from elsewhere. Maybe I'm wrong on that? I just know I'll be cheering on whoever is playing for us next fall, that's all.
This might be overly optimistic, but I’m guessing they start 2-4 and end up somewhere between 5-7 and 7-5.
That’ll be pretty damn good, all things considered.
You kinda answer your own question. If they end up at MAC/sunbelt teams. That may be where Jimmy believes they belong.
If we win more than 6 games there ought to be a lot of positive press around the rebuild. Could be the best thing that happens.
But JP’s guy is good for awhile either way. If we have a couple of losing seasons he’s got a lot of cover - even if he did have a part in running these guys off as some people have implied.
But JP’s guy is good for awhile either way. If we have a couple of losing seasons he’s got a lot of cover - even if he did have a part in running these guys off as some people have implied.
Both are better than what we had
The little i saw, they were out there making plays. Maybe that's whats our D morphed into, but i remember when our LBs were difference makers making turn overs
I’m not sure you could make that determination after 3 weeks and one sit down conversation with a kid. What would you base that off of?
