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CP3 is an upgrade for the rockets but this might not even move them ahead of the Spurs..guess we'll see.
 
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That's a good point. I guess I was just thinking that Chris Paul isn't necessarily thought of as a score first PG and Harden obviously wants a lot of shots.

Yeah, I suspect Harden likes racking up his assist numbers, too, though. It will probably be a difficult marriage, but being able to have at least one of those guys on the court at all times during games would be great.
 
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I honestly think the Clips won this trade. Four pieces for an aging point guard and now they have a TON of cap space for next summer to go after the huge fish like LeBron, Westbrook, etc.
 

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I honestly think the Clips won this trade. Four pieces for an aging point guard and now they have a TON of cap space for next summer to go after the huge fish like LeBron, Westbrook, etc.

Lebron isn't going to be a Clipper.

But they did make out ok bc he was going to walk regardless so at least they got a couple players.
 

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CP3 is an upgrade for the rockets but this might not even move them ahead of the Spurs..guess we'll see.
Unless the spurs add someone or trade LA I don't see them doing very good next year. Besides Kawhi and Dejounte Murray they have no future.

And the Rockets won the trade IMO. The Clippers just got a bunch of decent role players.
 

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The Clippers did OK to salvage something once Chris Paul made it clear that he wouldn't be re-signing there. At least now they have some flexibility and they're not locked into a core group that's going nowhere fast.
 

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Unless the spurs add someone or trade LA I don't see them doing very good next year. Besides Kawhi and Dejounte Murray they have no future.

And the Rockets won the trade IMO. The Clippers just got a bunch of decent role players.
How can you say the won the trade when The Clippers weren't going to get anything for him? He could have just walked but agreed to the sign and trade. I get in the which players are better category they won but that isn't really how every trade should be graded.
 
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Why did the Rockets want to trade? Couldn't they have just signed him once he opted out? I am assuming it had to do with clearing some cap space.
 

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Unless the spurs add someone or trade LA I don't see them doing very good next year. Besides Kawhi and Dejounte Murray they have no future.

And the Rockets won the trade IMO. The Clippers just got a bunch of decent role players.

The Spurs benefited for a decade from all of their top players taking discounts to allow them to better fill out the roster. It's going to get harder for them to build the depth they're known for while paying market value like everyone else.
 
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Why did the Rockets want to trade? Couldn't they have just signed him once he opted out? I am assuming it had to do with clearing some cap space.

Actually the trade had to happen before July 1st in order to make the money work (due to the minor trades involving cash considerations, they were able to open money to get Paul's salary under the cap and get both vet salary level options to use to sign player and additional exceptions. to fill out the roster with quality additions.

The big winner is Paul by opting in he takes a little less in a no tax state feel out if Houston and Hardin will work and still have the option to sign the super max next year or Jump to another team like this year. In addition Leborn Wade and Melo can all be Free agents next year and have the pick of the team they want to play for. #teambananaboat
 
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Even with this, I don't know that I see it having much effect on Golden State.



It'll chip away at their depth some but it doesn't necessarily drop them back to the pack, either. He's been great for them off the bench and his versatility is what unlocks their smallball lineup of death. But if he and Livingston both leave the Warriors will be depending on some young, mostly unproven players to replace their production. McCaw looks like a good one but beyond him there are some big question marks as far as their depth is concerned. But that's life for a superteam. Once the core guys start getting paid, the only way to fill out the roster and rotation is with cheap rookie deals and/or ring chasing vets.
 

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While Igoudala has been really good for the Warriors, he is not as good as he used to be and his age would make me nervous about resigning him for what I assume he wants. I think if he was willing to sign again with the Warrors for less money they would jump on it, but I think the wants to get a payday before he retires. Someone is definitely going to overpay for him.
 

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While Igoudala has been really good for the Warriors, he is not as good as he used to be and his age would make me nervous about resigning him for what I assume he wants. I think if he was willing to sign again with the Warrors for less money they would jump on it, but I think the wants to get a payday before he retires. Someone is definitely going to overpay for him.

Yeah, he got two rings and a Finals MVP. Time to get that one last big payday. I don't blame him.

I think he's probably more valuable to the Warriors than he is to anyone else just because of how his skill set fits within their system and roster, but someone will overpay and be disappointed in the results.
 
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CyJack13

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If the T'Wolves can land Kyle Lowry that could make them really interesting next year, like maybe top three seed in the West interesting. They would still need more shooting if they get Lowry but they could land a guy like Korver too, a KAT, Butler, Korver, Wiggins, Lowry five would not be a bad crunch time look. Reddick would be a great fit there too, but he's probably getting a big deal from Brooklyn or Philly that Minnesota wouldn't be able to match.
 

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If the T'Wolves can land Kyle Lowry that could make them really interesting next year, like maybe top three seed in the West interesting. They would still need more shooting if they get Lowry but they could land a guy like Korver too, a KAT, Butler, Korver, Wiggins, Lowry five would not be a bad crunch time look. Reddick would be a great fit there too, but he's probably getting a big deal from Brooklyn or Philly that Minnesota wouldn't be able to match.

CJ Miles would be a good fit there too as a spot up shooter if they can't get Korver. He's likely to opt out of his deal and while he's not as good a shooter he's a better defender.
 

CyJack13

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CJ Miles would be a good fit there too as a spot up shooter if they can't get Korver. He's likely to opt out of his deal and while he's not as good a shooter he's a better defender.

George Hill would be a good fit in place of Lowry and help with the shooting needs too, haven't really heard him linked to Minnesota at all though. Seems like Utah and San Antonio are most likely for him.
 

jbindm

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George Hill would be a good fit in place of Lowry and help with the shooting needs too, haven't really heard him linked to Minnesota at all though. Seems like Utah and San Antonio are most likely for him.

Yeah, and if the Wolves are going to deal Rubio then they are going to need a creator at PG too. George Hill is a lot of good things, but a playmaker isn't one of them. Someone's going to have to set the table for KAT, Butler, and Wiggins.
 

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