Yeah, of all the things to complain about, running off Hinson is not on the list.
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I don't think it's as simple as yes/no. I think it's a prioritization thing, where you're not going to often get the guys that do it all, so you have to choose what are your non-negotiables vs. what you can live without.
Through two years, obviously the heavy lean into the defensive end gave a big jump to the program, but I can't help but wonder if it really hurts the game-to-game floor to not have tried to pick up another combo guard or a guy who can get to the rack off the bounce or get to the line over a third center that rarely saw the court.
It's more complicated than is he or is he not trying to get shooters. Every coach wants guys who can shoot it, but it will vary staff to staff how heavily they'll weigh defensive instincts vs. ball handling/shot creating vs. efficiency from the floor.
Holmes is freaking awesome. Gabe too. They are great guys and their character and leadership will be missed.
Tre King can be a double digit scorer (Fran F. at least thinks he will) and Momcilivic could be our version of Grady Dicck. Add a good shooting transfer and we’ll be fine.
It's not dissimilar to the hope that Manning would be gone after football. Wins and losses aside, it's clear that something should change on that end. I'm not advocating anyone being gone, this staff is very good and I'm a believer in them long term, but you just also shouldn't look at the lows that we've seen on offense and not change your approach in some regard on that end.
Today's game was so laughably craptacular that I just had to quantify how bad it was for my own morbid curiosity. I pulled the FG% stats for each player from conference games only and used that to estimate the probability that we'd only go 14-60 from the field. Out of 2,083 simulations, we scored ≤14 buckets... zero times. This was literally-off-the-charts bad shooting.
Watson, Holmes and King were the only players who ended up in the same zip code of their average FG%. It was a season-worst performance from Jones, Lipsey, Kalscheur, Kunc and Osunniyi all at the same time.
Shrug your shoulders, burn the tape, have a beer, and wait for football season. When half the team has their worst night of the season, there's nothing else you can do.
Watson, Holmes and King were the only players who ended up in the same zip code of their average FG%. It was a season-worst performance from Jones, Lipsey, Kalscheur, Kunc and Osunniyi all at the same time.
Shrug your shoulders, burn the tape, have a beer, and wait for football season. When half the team has their worst night of the season, there's nothing else you can do.
Holmes is a class act. He will go on to be very successful, just not at basketball.
I don't think I have ever seen a staff that does have you? Yet every year many have met pink slips because the ball doesn't go through the hoop.
How did I know this would taken like that. Are you drunk? Heck no.......but it's the coaches ship.
He gets all the blame for winning AND losing.
I think in the first year of NIL recruitment, TJ went big fish hunting and struck out on the scorers he was chasing. The target strategy for ISU will have to be revised to see to it ISU has a higher rate of success with players that can help. As you said, there's lots of kids with the ability to shoot threes out there.
I know they can do it, they are good all around recruiters. They will get the NIL/transfer thing sorted out.
I follow recruiting super loosely but the transfer season will be interesting as there hasn't seemed to have been much out there for who they're going after.
I have confidence in there being a plan though. The Tre King article from CW earlier this week was a good look into what draws recruits in.
The start reminded me of a Big 12 tourney game start ISU had against Baylor where they missed a bunch of shots at the start and fell behind like 13-15 points. Don't remember the year without looking it up, but ISU recovered with decent defense and great offense to win, unlike today.
Love the defense the Otz team have played. But need better athleticism and discipline to avoid fouling so much. But, it doesn't matter if you can hold your opponent to 10 points if you can only score 7.
Otz has got to recruit some athletic shooters, preferably guards and stretch forwards because that is today's game. Athletic players can be taught defense.
He appears to be on the right track with the recruits he is bringing in. I think his staff has also done a decent job of identifying players in the portal who can contribute and fill needed positions.
We are a little spoiled here I think by the Morris/Niang/Ejim etc. days when ISU seemingly had 5 scorers on the court at all times who could play a "good enough" defense in most cases. Defense didn't seem to matter as much, since ISU could outscore the opponent most of the time.
Disappointing, frustrating, embarrassing loss, but hopefully TJ and staff are on the right track. Just need to make the teams more balanced between O & D in order to win these days. That is true for any program IMHO. Time will tell.
Love the defense the Otz team have played. But need better athleticism and discipline to avoid fouling so much. But, it doesn't matter if you can hold your opponent to 10 points if you can only score 7.
Otz has got to recruit some athletic shooters, preferably guards and stretch forwards because that is today's game. Athletic players can be taught defense.
He appears to be on the right track with the recruits he is bringing in. I think his staff has also done a decent job of identifying players in the portal who can contribute and fill needed positions.
We are a little spoiled here I think by the Morris/Niang/Ejim etc. days when ISU seemingly had 5 scorers on the court at all times who could play a "good enough" defense in most cases. Defense didn't seem to matter as much, since ISU could outscore the opponent most of the time.
Disappointing, frustrating, embarrassing loss, but hopefully TJ and staff are on the right track. Just need to make the teams more balanced between O & D in order to win these days. That is true for any program IMHO. Time will tell.
Heard our coach declined warm up time after the delay for basket leveling. Went 23.3% for the game. Maybe should have taken it.
