***Official 2026 NCAA Tournament Thread***
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More of a correlation with Self’s heart attack. KU did win a natty with NIL enacted in the 2021-2022 season.
I doubt you'd EVER hear a Hawkeye say, "I suppose I should be cheering for Iowa State because it's good for the state."
Duke Sweet Sixteen Facts
Appearances: 35
Sweet Sixteen Record: 25-9
St. John’s Sweet Sixteen Facts
Appearances: 10
Sweet Sixteen Record: 6-3
Michigan Sweet Sixteen Facts
Appearances: 20
Sweet Sixteen Record: 14-5
Alabama Sweet Sixteen Facts
Appearances: 13
Sweet Sixteen Record: 3-9
Appearances: 35
Sweet Sixteen Record: 25-9
- Record before seeding: 5-0
- Record as higher seed: 18-6
- Record as lower seed: 2-3
- 3rd Sweet Sixteen
- 2-0 with Duke
St. John’s Sweet Sixteen Facts
Appearances: 10
Sweet Sixteen Record: 6-3
- Record before seeding: 2-2
- Record as higher seed: 1-1
- Record as lower seed: 3-0
- 14th Sweet Sixteen
- 1-0 with Providence
- 5-0 with Kentucky
- 6-1 with Louisville
Michigan Sweet Sixteen Facts
Appearances: 20
Sweet Sixteen Record: 14-5
- Record before seeding: 6-0
- Record as higher seed: 5-1
- Record as lower seed: 3-4
- 3rd Sweet Sixteen
- 1-0 with Florida Atlantic
- 0-1 with Michigan
Alabama Sweet Sixteen Facts
Appearances: 13
Sweet Sixteen Record: 3-9
- Record before seeding: 0-1
- Record as higher seed: 1-4
- Record as lower seed: 2-4
- 5th Sweet Sixteen
- 2-2 with Alabama
Why does "good for the state" matter?
We can talk about 'good for the state' when the state starts chipping in for some of the costs to sustain success at both schools (but particularly ISU given past history)
No one moves to a state because a team won a tournament game.
CycloneErik
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Tbh it's no different than the "strongest conference" argument. Who gives a ****? So all the teams in the Big West are better because Gonzaga is usually good? Yeah nobody cares.
That’s fair, but about the time they smoked PU my uncle and I were talking and we were both convinced they were the real deal… And I think he believed that TJ was a good enough coach that he could be counted on to have a good team… That’s what fans do they try to believe in their coach and that’s commendable that’s what they should do.
Doesn’t make a lot of sense to tear them down for it.
As I’ve said, he has a daughter that went to Michigan, who they were waxing poetic about how good they were and at that time we both thought Iowa State was better. It’s more of a tossup now.
I want to make sure I understand this correctly. You would trade the men’s team going to an elite eight and then 3 NITs for 2 women’s trips to the NC game. Or are you saying you would take 4, 6–7 seeds for the men’s team instead of two straight trips to the NC for the women.
I’m assuming this is all predicated on the hope that because McCollum took Iowa to the elite eight your hope is he’ll be gone now… Never mind the fact I’m pretty certain there are a couple fans on here mad as hell because an Iowa fan suggested TJ might go elsewhere… But I’m really confused by your first statement.
I mean, I guess I understand it if you like men’s basketball that much more than women’s. Then sure that would make sense but otherwise I’m super confused
Wow, that’s all interesting information. Thank you for that.
Exactly what I thought… And listen I’m going to say this out loud only because of the built-in biases and prejudice that every single human being has and if they say they don’t, they are liars… I think I look at them and see that they are kind of gompy looking white dudes with hillbilly beards and just assume they’re not real basketball players… I’m sure that’s some form of racism or reverse racism or whatever and I acknowledge that. It’s not who I am, but clearly I must think that because I swear I look at their team every year and go what in the holy hell ?!
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Yes, I suspect that’s true… but I would honestly think Drake alumni would have money, no?
I don’t dislike BILL Self…I wouldn’t call myself a fan, but I also agree is a hell of a coach. And I’ve read some positive stuff about him off the basketball court. In fact, I’ll tell you a funny story. I was telling my uncle some feel good story about him several years back. My memory is shot right now. I’m vaguely remembering it might’ve had something to do with Iowa State and maybe Fred Hoiberg and I may be smoking crack hell who knows..
Anywhooo… he stops me and tells me don’t do that, don’t tell me something nice about Self. I want to hate the guy. That’s one thing I love about my uncle. He’s pretty real about himself… He’s only six years older than me, but that’s another lesson, I’ve learned that has made me reevaluate my own ********.
Uhh, I wasn’t involved in the WBB comparisons.
I was contemplating for MBB whether I’d prefer a single Elite 8 followed by missing the tournament altogether 3 straight seasons (often referred to as “the Tang”) or 4 straight seasons good enough to earn #6-#7 seeds (presumably with a few tournament wins).
It is actually a tough call. The Elite 8 is, uhh, elite.
I don’t know about Cyclone fans getting mad here, but two things:
1. This is a Cyclone board.
2. Though an avowed progressive and equality absolutist I am a genus chauvinist. Other than a handful of truly exceptional cases Hawkeye fans lack the requisite cognitive and emotional aptitudes to be considered human.
Any such asymmetry is to be expected.
