*** Official 2025 Chicago Cubs Thread***

I think their record is a bit hollow. The Cubs are something like 40-36 since June 1st. So they've been a little above average for longer than they were good. At this point this level of play is proving to be closer to their actual capabilities compared to their hot start.
you’re right, they 40-36 since June 1….. which is good for the 9th best record in mlb since that date. Still meh? Still hollow?

In addition to that, they have the second best run differential in the majors on the year. That to me says that their record is not hollow.
 
you’re right, they 40-36 since June 1….. which is good for the 9th best record in mlb since that date. Still meh? Still hollow?

In addition to that, they have the second best run differential in the majors on the year. That to me says that their record is not hollow.
Run differential since June 1st is +20 (albeit 11th best in MLB). So yeah, still a little hollow to me -- the Cubs numbers are inflated by their hot start.

Pessimism aside, this version of the Cubs is still going to be a playoff team and the pitching is proving to be pretty dang good. If the offense could find a way to rise from the ashes for a couple of weeks I think they make the NLCS.
 
We should go after Kyle Schwarber. Four homeruns and 9 RBI tonight. He might finish this season with 60 homeruns.

As long as Suzuki is still on the roster I don't see how you can justify signing a guy that should DH too and is entering the decline years of his career. Especially when you are not willing to trade cost controlled top prospects in the org like Caissie and Alcantara. We've beat this topic to death about how it would be nice if we could get Happ or Suzuki to waive a no trade clause but I doubt that happens so we are likely stuck with them for 2026 and PCA isn't going anywhere either.

It's poor roster construction at this point as you have some nice cost controlled pieces and role players but no real superstar in the heart of the order. You commit to the cost controlled position players and you invest in pitching IMO and hope the young guys like Shaw and Busch continue to improve and Caissie and Alcantara make an impact.
 
As long as Suzuki is still on the roster I don't see how you can justify signing a guy that should DH too and is entering the decline years of his career. Especially when you are not willing to trade cost controlled top prospects in the org like Caissie and Alcantara. We've beat this topic to death about how it would be nice if we could get Happ or Suzuki to waive a no trade clause but I doubt that happens so we are likely stuck with them for 2026 and PCA isn't going anywhere either.

It's poor roster construction at this point as you have some nice cost controlled pieces and role players but no real superstar in the heart of the order. You commit to the cost controlled position players and you invest in pitching IMO and hope the young guys like Shaw and Busch continue to improve and Caissie and Alcantara make an impact.
Suzuki can play RF. He even played CF for one game this year.
 
Pairs nicely with his 200 strikeouts and unplayable defense. Something you definitely want to buy for his age 33-37 seasons.
I don’t care he strikes out 200 times if he can hit 40+ home runs and drive in 120 runs. He can DH for us and Suzuki can move to RF.
 
Pairs nicely with his 200 strikeouts and unplayable defense. Something you definitely want to buy for his age 33-37 seasons.
It all depends on what Schwarber and Tucker are willing to play for.

The linked article still says Tucker will command around $400M in free agency. I would struggle to invest that much money in a .270 hitter, who might hit 30 HR's and is an average fielder.

Whereas, if Schwarber is looking at a 4-5 year deal with a $45M AAV tops, I'd jump at it. His defense isn't an issue because he's 100% DH.

Adding Schwarber forces the Cubs to play hardball with Happ or Suzuki this winter. Both can't be starters with the Cubs next year regardless, that story has played out the last few years and isn't going to age any better in 2026. Both would waive their NTC if they knew they would be platoon players going into FA. It also opens a path for Caissie and Alcantara to be part of a young OF rotation of: PCA, Alcantara, Caissie and Happ or Suzuki.

Saving money on Tucker and Happ or Suzuki then allows the Cubs to make a run on a top-line starter, improved relief staff and sign a legitimate platoon 1B.
 
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It all depends on what Schwarber and Tucker are willing to play for.

The linked article still says Tucker will command around $400M in free agency. I would struggle to invest that much money in a .270 hitter, who might hit 30 HR's and is an average fielder.

Whereas, if Schwarber is looking at a 4-5 year deal with a $45M AAV tops, I'd jump at it. His defense isn't an issue because he's 100% DH.

Adding Schwarber forces the Cubs to play hardball with Happ or Suzuki this winter. Both can't be starters with the Cubs next year regardless, that story has played out the last few years and isn't going to age any better in 2026. Both would waive their NTC if they knew they would be platoon players going into FA. It also opens a path for Caissie and Alcantara to be part of a young OF rotation of: PCA, Alcantara, Caissie and Happ or Suzuki.

Saving money on Tucker and Happ or Suzuki then allows the Cubs to make a run on a top-line starter, improved relief staff and sign a legitimate platoon 1B.
Tommy ain't spending anything with the lockout coming. They'll sign Tucker if the price is right but they aren't doing anything other than playing around the edges and looking for a salary dump if they can find one.
 
It all depends on what Schwarber and Tucker are willing to play for.

The linked article still says Tucker will command around $400M in free agency. I would struggle to invest that much money in a .270 hitter, who might hit 30 HR's and is an average fielder.

Whereas, if Schwarber is looking at a 4-5 year deal with a $45M AAV tops, I'd jump at it. His defense isn't an issue because he's 100% DH.

Adding Schwarber forces the Cubs to play hardball with Happ or Suzuki this winter. Both can't be starters with the Cubs next year regardless, that story has played out the last few years and isn't going to age any better in 2026. Both would waive their NTC if they knew they would be platoon players going into FA. It also opens a path for Caissie and Alcantara to be part of a young OF rotation of: PCA, Alcantara, Caissie and Happ or Suzuki.

Saving money on Tucker and Happ or Suzuki then allows the Cubs to make a run on a top-line starter, improved relief staff and sign a legitimate platoon 1B.
This is a fair assessment of Tucker. I agree 100% with your assessment.
 
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The Cubs suck, and tbh I'm losing interest in this year's team in a hurry. Thissss close to shifting to football for my interest, big game for us this weekend and the NFL starts up as well. BTW, noticed that Bellinger is posting a mid-800s OPS for the Yanks with 20+ HR and 80+ RBI in late August. Remind me again what the Cubs got for letting him go? What was it, a bucket of warm spit?

I literally can't believe Ricketts re-upped with Jed.
 
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Coming exclusively out of the bullpen now.



Assumed this day was eventually coming with his injury issues and problems when he faced a lineup the 2nd time through the order. Him and Wesneski both seemed like guys that had some good stuff but could not execute their pitches as a starter. Hoping he can stay healthy and work his way back as a reliever. He was DFA already so is not on the 40 man so it's not a given he even stays in the Cubs system at this point either.