Offensive Future at Wide Receiver

........I'm old enough to remember the awesomeness that was Hardemann/Stanley in the greatest offense ISU has ever had...and I'd be fine with reliving that kind of production from a PAIR of QB's..........


Buddy and Wayne were quite a duo as I believe we ended up #2 in the nation in total offense that year. Didn't hurt that they had Blue and Hardy to throw to. Both QBs, Blue, and I think 5 others all got drafted to the NFL from that team. Amazing.
 
Reynolds has 7 TDs and a 16 yards/catch average, with two more games to go. Hardly a disappointment imo. I am not disappointed in Darks, after watching him the past couple of years he has played like most anticipated.

He also had 6 of those td's in the first 3-4 games since then only 1 with A LOT of drops! Overall, his season stats will be okay but not where they could/should be.
 
Isnt Albert Gary being charged with 1st degree robbery? Whats the status on that, until thats settled and it comes out that he isnt guilty then I am not holding out hope he will be playing, which is a disappointment.
 
The two guys I'm excited to "hopefully" see the field are Bundrage and Jennert. My only worry is Barnett's arm strength to get the ball down the field.
 
He also had 6 of those td's in the first 3-4 games since then only 1 with A LOT of drops! Overall, his season stats will be okay but not where they could/should be.

Same with every ISU WR sans Blythe in 20004/05. If you expected him to put up 10 TDs in Big 12 play, that is a you issue.
 
I will say that I'm more excited to see next year's offense than I expected to be a few weeks ago. The young playmakers show some real promise, and this whole improving during the season thing has been nice to see. The last few games have really made it appear that Herman has a good thing building.
 
Lampkin is fast fast fast - not sure how that translates to football fast, but his track accomplishments are nearly legendary in Nebraska with him being the first male in 19 years to win 4 gold medals at this years state track meet...

You guys discussing real times, here's clocked numbers for you...

100 meters - 10.69
200 meters - 22.23

if you were to extrapolate that rate down to 40 meters he would run a 4.276.....not sure but that seems fast!!!!
 
Lampkin is fast fast fast - not sure how that translates to football fast, but his track accomplishments are nearly legendary in Nebraska with him being the first male in 19 years to win 4 gold medals at this years state track meet...

You guys discussing real times, here's clocked numbers for you...

100 meters - 10.69
200 meters - 22.23

if you were to extrapolate that rate down to 40 meters he would run a 4.276.....not sure but that seems fast!!!!

The problem is he's running probably 80-90M or so at full speed there, where he's only running 20-30M at full speed for his 40. A good first 10M will be somewhere in the area of 1.5 seconds.....taking this a little too far and adjusting for that, he'd run about a 4.55. That's essentially a guess though. Either way, the kid can fly.
 
It's no secret that our senior receivers have been a disappointment this season. I wish them well and greatly look forward to the future of what we have at receiver for next season. I hope we can develop a big, downfield threat - as it's something our offense is sorely lacking.
ATTENTION EVERYONE, 22 is back to rip the receivers. We don't hear from him in ages, until a WR thread comes up so he can tell us all how bad everyone is.

And we get it, you don't like "money". You also hate the fact that people call him "money".
 
Lampkin is fast fast fast - not sure how that translates to football fast, but his track accomplishments are nearly legendary in Nebraska with him being the first male in 19 years to win 4 gold medals at this years state track meet...

You guys discussing real times, here's clocked numbers for you...

100 meters - 10.69
200 meters - 22.23

if you were to extrapolate that rate down to 40 meters he would run a 4.276.....not sure but that seems fast!!!!

I don't care what his 40 time is the kid absolutely can fly. Looking at the highlight video he is blowing by guys in the top division of Nebraska high school football like they running in sand. Will that translate into being a deep threat? Who knows, but being fast is a good start. Hopefully he will have the strength to get off the line.
 
It's no secret that our senior receivers have been a disappointment this season. I wish them well and greatly look forward to the future of what we have at receiver for next season. I hope we can develop a big, downfield threat - as it's something our offense is sorely lacking.

How will the ISU offense ever figure out if it has a deep threat when they only throw a couple of deep balls a game?

I think ISU threw two deep balls against OU. On one for sure (and I think the second one as well), the ISU receiver had the OU defender beaten. The throw was not there.

ISU receivers drop passes. That's on them. But the ISU offensive scheme doesn't do the receivers (or the QB) any favors. ISU rarely runs deep routes. The defensive secondary knows this, and they congest the area from the line of scrimmage to 15-20 yards downfield, where ISU's routes are primarily run. The QB has to make accurate passes and the recievers are always in traffic. As I mentioned in the another thread, ISU compresses the field on itself.

It was interesting to watch OUs offense yesterday in person. The OU receivers stretch the field (they run deep routes even though they rarely passed to those receveivers yesterday) which opened up the 10-20 yd range. They had several wide open passes there.
 
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How will the ISU offense ever figure out if it has a deep threat when they only throw a couple of deep balls a game?

I think ISU threw two deep balls against OU. One one for sure (and I think the second one as well), the ISU receiver had the OU defender beaten. The throw was not there.

ISU receivers drop passes. That's on them. But the ISU offensive scheme doesn't do the receivers (or the QB) any favors. ISU rarely runs deep routes. The defensive secondary knows this, and they congest the area from the line of scrimmage to 15-20 yards downfield, where ISU's routes are primarily run. The QB has to make accurate passes and the recievers are always in traffic. As I mentioned in the another thread, ISU compresses the field on itself.

It was interesting to watch OUs offense yesterday in person. The OU receivers stretch the field (they run deep routes even though they rarely passed to those receveivers yesterday) which opened up the 10-20 yd range. They had several wide open passes there.

Great post.
It is a bad cycle for our passing game. We do not have the OU type athletes to consistently have deep threats. Thus Herman seemingly has removed vertical routes. So much so that the opposition can put tremendous pressure on our underneath based passing offense (which also makes it harder on the running game). All that congestion makes an already average YAC group even more average.

I know we do not have great WRs, but you would think we would get big plays and more open WRs due simply to breakdowns on the defense.
 
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Reynolds has 7 TDs and a 16 yards/catch average, with two more games to go. Hardly a disappointment imo. I am not disappointed in Darks, after watching him the past couple of years he has played like most anticipated.

He also had 6 of those td's in the first 3-4 games since then only 1 with A LOT of drops! Overall, his season stats will be okay but not where they could/should be.

Same with every ISU WR sans Blythe in 20004/05. If you expected him to put up 10 TDs in Big 12 play, that is a you issue.

Reynolds is just one of two senior receivers that get playing time. Both have had moments, Reynolds more than Darks, yet neither has been consistent or provided leadership. No hate, just facts.

ATTENTION EVERYONE, 22 is back to rip the receivers. We don't hear from him in ages, until a WR thread comes up so he can tell us all how bad everyone is.

And we get it, you don't like "money". You also hate the fact that people call him "money".

Some take facts way too personal here.

Is there something I said that's inaccurate? If so, please point it out. Until then, you continue to prove yourself insignificant when it comes to discussions that aren't personal pisssing matches.

How will the ISU offense ever figure out if it has a deep threat when they only throw a couple of deep balls a game?

I think ISU threw two deep balls against OU. One one for sure (and I think the second one as well), the ISU receiver had the OU defender beaten. The throw was not there.

ISU receivers drop passes. That's on them. But the ISU offensive scheme doesn't do the receivers (or the QB) any favors. ISU rarely runs deep routes. The defensive secondary knows this, and they congest the area from the line of scrimmage to 15-20 yards downfield, where ISU's routes are primarily run. The QB has to make accurate passes and the recievers are always in traffic. As I mentioned in the another thread, ISU compresses the field on itself.

It was interesting to watch OUs offense yesterday in person. The OU receivers stretch the field (they run deep routes even though they rarely passed to those receveivers yesterday) which opened up the 10-20 yd range. They had several wide open passes there.

Good stuff.

I think it's a direct relationship to...

- receiver play
- quarterback play
- offensive scheme

You noted the deep balls thrown were unsuccessful. I think the answer of why it's not done more often lies within the limited success.

You are 100% correct...our offense self-compresses the field. Won't be very effective consistently doing that.

In the games we play well, our offense helps the defense by the long drives. We don't have many big plays and therefore, when the offense does well, we eat the clock and rest the defense. This is an obvious statement, it just more important with ISU because...

Our offense is almost always going to have to go on drives with many plays because we can't break the big one. When our offense is inconsistent with turnovers, penalties and catching the ball - just makes it that much tougher to score because we run more plays - giving more opportunity for these frequent mistakes.
 
Reynolds is just one of two senior receivers that get playing time. Both have had moments, Reynolds more than Darks, yet neither has been consistent or provided leadership. No hate, just facts.

I figured someone so cognizant of the facts would have had more realistic expectations. Anyone disappointed with Reynolds and Darks this year has been ignoring facts for the past 2 years (if not longer). Frustrated, maybe, disappointed only if delusional.
 
I figured someone so cognizant of the facts would have had more realistic expectations. Anyone disappointed with Reynolds and Darks this year has been ignoring facts for the past 2 years (if not longer). Frustrated, maybe, disappointed only if delusional.

Why are you talking about the last few years? I'm talking about this season, the only one that currently matters.

If these two were consistent performers, they wouldn't be on the sidelines at key times and as often as they are.
 
Why are you talking about the last few years? I'm talking about this season, the only one that currently matters.

If these two were consistent performers, they wouldn't be on the sidelines at key times and as often as they are.

You're right on here. They've had big moments, they've had big drops. They've made real contributions, but they've been inconsistent overall.

For example, Reynolds was on pace for 1000 yards after 5 or 6 weeks, and then doesn't add to his totals for about 3 weeks. Then he has some more big moments. He's full of talent, just not consistent. Nothing wrong with pointing that out.
 
Why are you talking about the last few years? I'm talking about this season, the only one that currently matters.

If these two were consistent performers, they wouldn't be on the sidelines at key times and as often as they are.

Yeah, no reasonable mind would use the previous year's performance to form expectations for the upcoming season. You got Barnett for the Heisman next year?


No hate, just the facts.
 

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