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[madguy30]

What are the odds that the Big 12 regular season champion will get knocked out of a playoff spot by losing the Big 12 championship game next year?

Big 12 basically just needed a championship game; works for me.

A conference like the B1G won't be putting the two best teams in the championship since it's mainly OSU (if they get things figured out) and Michigan.

The North/South of the old Big 12 didn't necessarily put the two best teams against each other either, so this format is fine.

 

[JohnnyFive]

Just announced. Top two teams in overall standings will square off in the conference championship game that begins next year.

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=211258195

This is the right move by the Big 12.

I like it.

This way you get the actual very best top two teams in the title game. I don't care if it's a rematch, other conferences get rematches in their title games all the time. Everyone already plays everyone, and in this new format you don't have one team playing nobody and the other playing a whole bunch of good teams. This actually falls in line with the Big 12's 'One True Champion' slogan. Now we'll surely get the best vs the second-best for the title. Lets just use, oh, I don't know, 2015 Iowa, for instance. Anybody actually think Iowa was the second-best team in the Big 10 last year?

 

[surly]

Logic prevails with this decision. $30 million added per year. CFP 13th data point. Plus, great theater at the conference season's close.

 

[Bestaluckcy]

So if we have one unbeaten team and two teams tied for second with 2 losses, who plays?

 

[cyIclSoneU]

So if we have one unbeaten team and two teams tied for second with 2 losses, who plays?

The conference tiebreaker in that case would be whoever won head to head between the 7-2 teams would face the 9-0 team in the game.

 

[TykeClone]

Just announced. Top two teams in overall standings will square off in the conference championship game that begins next year.

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=211258195

This is the right move by the Big 12.

Once again, the brain trust of the conference is proving that while the rest of the P5 is playing chess, the Big IIXII is playing Chutes and Ladders

 

[Clonehomer]

I don't like it, but it is necessary because of the media blowhards. I do think that scheduling will still be setup to avoid playing back to back. Teams that are expected to compete will have heavily front loaded schedules to jump high in the polls early and coast until the CCG.

So the only thing left to do is start the narrative that the SEC should be downgraded due to their 8 game conference schedule.

 

[3GenClone]

So if we have one unbeaten team and two teams tied for second with 2 losses, who plays?

That's a really good question. It happened last year between TCU and OK State and in 2013 there were 3 teams that finished in 2nd place with 7-2 records (OU, OK State and Texas)

 

[KnappShack]

So in order to enhance the ability to get into the playoff we put our best school at the highest risk of losing

 

[Bestaluckcy]

Ok so taking it one step further. Then the 2 loss team beats the noloss team in the championship game. Now who is conference champ. The team with 2 losses? or the team with one loss even though they just loss to another team in the championship game.

 

[surly]

So in order to enhance the ability to get into the playoff we put our best school at the highest risk of losing

Correct. The rational choice.

 

[cyIclSoneU]

That's a really good question. It happened last year between TCU and OK State and in 2013 there were 3 teams that finished in 2nd place with 7-2 records (OU, OK State and Texas)

There is already a process for this:

 

[Clonehomer]

Ok so taking it one step further. Then the 2 loss team beats the noloss team in the championship game. Now who is conference champ. The team with 2 losses? or the team with one loss even though they just loss to another team in the championship game.

Regular season champs and championship game champs, just like basketball. One true-ish champion

 

[surly]

Ok so taking it one step further. Then the 2 loss team beats the noloss team in the championship game. Now who is conference champ. The team with 2 losses? or the team with one loss even though they just loss to another team in the championship game.

The winner of the game is the conference champion. Remember when K-State beat OU in 2003, probably not. OU went to the better bowl anyway, Sugar.

 

[Clones8686]

Imagine a scenario like the 2008 Big 12 South. Three teams finish 8-1 and all three are 1-1 against the other two. The team that gets left out is going to be howling

 

[Sigmapolis]

Thank goodness.

Why anybody considered anything but a plus one between the two best teams on a neutral field is way beyond me.

I hope they rotate the championship game between Dallas, San Antonio, and Kansas City. Be fair to the north.

 

[surly]

I would rather this game go to Jerry's World and hoops stay in KC.

 

[Desiigner]

Stupid, they should have expanded the league.

 

[mdk2isu]

I would rather this game go to Jerry's World and hoops stay in KC.

This is the correct answer.

*cant believe I agreed with surly

 

[ECIRT.KCAJ]

That's the situation they dug themselves in.

"Hey, we might get shafted from the Playoff without a Championship game."

"But we already play round-robin..."

"Got it: add more teams and build conferences again!"

Later...

"On second thought, we don't want to add those teams. We'll just build conferences without adding more."

"...Two conferences of five teams, that still play round-robin...?"

"Nevermind, forget the conferences, we'll just have our top two teams play each other... Again."

Can't wait for an undefeated Big 12 team to lose the Championship game to a one or two loss team, thus resulting in neither of them making the Playoff.

Why do I see this happening to Iowa State (being the "not undefeated" team, of course).