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The truth about all of this is the Husker faithful put out these lists of people they WANT, thinking high end coaches will line up begging for the job. What they do not understand is that the outside world does not want the job, or view it as the destination position it was 30 years ago. Coaches like Urb, The Stoops crew, CMC, etc will turn them down politely and they will be STUCK with a new coach. Not having SELECTED one
 
LeadersWifeLife said:
The truth about all of this is the Husker faithful put out these lists of people they WANT, thinking high end coaches will line up begging for the job. What they do not understand is that the outside world does not want the job, or view it as the destination position it was 30 years ago. Coaches like Urb, The Stoops crew, CMC, etc will turn them down politely and they will be STUCK with a new coach. Not having SELECTED one
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They aren’t alone though, every fan base thinks they’re bigger than they are. Did you see SOME of the lists here before CPR, Hoiberg, Prohm, Campbell, or TJ were hired? Same everywhere.
 
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Jeremy said:
They aren’t alone though, every fan base thinks they’re bigger than they are. Did you see SOME of the lists here before CPR, Hoiberg, Prohm, Campbell, or TJ were hired? Same everywhere.
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Honestly, I'm not sure how we landed Gene Chizek. He was as hot of a coaching prospect as anybody in college football except for maybe the USC offensive assistant coaches (Kiffin and Sarkisian).
 
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Jeremy said:
They aren’t alone though, every fan base thinks they’re bigger than they are. Did you see SOME of the lists here before CPR, Hoiberg, Prohm, Campbell, or TJ were hired? Same everywhere.
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Well sure. The difference is before TJ was hired, if someone listed Calipari or Coach K, no one would actually believe it. Husker fans here in SWI actually believe they have a shot at Meyer
 
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Honestly, I'm not sure how we landed Gene Chizek. He was as hot of a coaching prospect as anybody in college football except for maybe the USC offensive assistant coaches (Kiffin and Sarkisian).
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From what I remember, he wasn't a great interviewer and came off fake and more arrogant than others. There were also rumors from his past (that also occurred at ISU).
 
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LeadersWifeLife said:
Well sure. The difference is before TJ was hired, if someone listed Calipari or Coach K, no one would actually believe it. Husker fans here in SWI actually believe they have a shot at Meyer
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I don’t think Meyer is completely out of the question. If there is a fan base that will look over his past, it’s Nebraska. And if there is a coach who is motivated by money and nothing else it’s Urban.
 
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At least Andy Staples at the Athletic has a relatively balanced discussion.

Dear Andy Staples,

Matt Campbell is already in the news again to leave Iowa State. What did Iowa State do to deserve this perpetual hell?

— Glenn

This angst, of course, popped up because Nebraska suddenly has an opening. But don’t be surprised if the names of Iowa State coach Matt Campbell and Kansas coach Lance Leipold get tossed around when other jobs open later this season.

The best bet [to hold a coach] is to have a history of caring deeply about football and a willingness to provide the coach the resources (within reason) that they request. Iowa State has an advantage over Kansas on this front because the passion for football in the Iowa State community is real and palpable. To answer Glenn’s question, Iowa State didn’t “do” anything to deserve constant speculation about its coach leaving. The speculation arises because Iowa State doesn’t have a rich history of football success or a huge alumni base. So we assume that at some point Campbell will leave for a school that has more money and/or better access to national title contention.

For years, Mississippi State fans got mad at me when I suggested Dan Mullen might leave. Then, following the 2017 season, Mullen kicked the tires on the Tennessee job and took the Florida job. It wasn’t because of anything Mississippi State did or didn’t do; Mullen considered those two to be better jobs.

Maybe Campbell will prove us wrong. Campbell seems to truly enjoy coaching in Ames, and he seems like the type who understands that he’s got a good thing — which certainly raises the bar for any program trying to hire him away. Cincinnati’s Luke Fickell seems to have a similar temperament. He likes where he is. His family is happy. He’s successful. Those factors don’t matter to all coaches, but they definitely seem to matter to those two particular hot commodities.

Mel Tucker wound up taking that Michigan State job. He was at Colorado before. The Buffaloes have not shown the same level of commitment to football as Wake Forest or Iowa State, so when the Spartans responded to Tucker initially turning them down by offering to essentially double his salary and his assistant coach salary pool, he would have been crazy to say no.

That is the concern among athletic directors at schools in the eight conferences not named the Big Ten or the SEC. Will every Big Ten or SEC school be so flush with cash that it can just make an offer that no coach outside those leagues can refuse? Not necessarily. As noted above, these decisions won’t always come down to dollars. But an obscene amount of dollars could break a tie in some coaches’ minds.
 
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Ummmm - Campbell is or was an offensive line coach.

Campbell then went back to Bowling Green for two years, first as offensive line coach (2007) and then as offensive line coach/run game coordinator (2008). The University of Toledo hired him as the run game coordinator for the 2009 season.



So - I mean, they're not entirely wrong. Our head coach and our OC 's backgrounds are both coaching the offensive line. Which is one of the reasons I imagine Campbell gets asked so much about the offensive line. I'm sure he would anyways as the head coach but - since that is his background I imagine that factors into at least a few of the questions regarding that position
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I understand that. But I think most people would agree up to this point OL hasn't been one of ISU's strengths even with Campbell & Manning's backgrounds.

IMO Campbell is a CEO, not a head coach who gets deeply engaged in position groups. He lets his coaches, coach. Just not sure Husker fans understand who Matt Campbell is.

He's more Kirk Ferentz than Lincoln Riley. He's a culture guy, not a glitz guy. A grinder. Probably what Nebraska needs, but maybe not what most people want.
 
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Campbell has certainly turned down some interesting offers, but he has yet to be heavily pursued by a first-tier "dream job" that is an obvious fit for who he is as a man and as a coach.

Those would be the blue-blooded college programs in the Midwest (and likely only Michigan, Notre Dame, Ohio State, and maybe Penn State if you can stretch the "Midwest" into central Pennsylvania) or an NFL job at a well-run organization (respected owner, GM, etc.) with a good quarterback. An example might be something like Kansas City once Andy Reid retires with Patrick Mahomes slingin' it like he is.

I am not going to call Campbell an Iowa State lifer until he turns one of those down.

Until then, I am going to enjoy the ride and look forward to one of the young up-and-comers on the staff, most likely Tom Manning, taking over for Campbell when he might finally move on from Ames.
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I do know what you mean.

First, I don’t ever see Campbell going to the NFL. I just don’t see his message of culture meshing well with the egos of pro athletes. Yes, the prospects of KC calling are a lot more scary than say Detroit or Washington, but I also don’t see an organization like KC coming calling to take a risk on Campbell anyway, not when they can pretty much have whatever coach they want within reason.

The more scary proposition is if a blue blood midwestern school like OSU, ND, UofM, or PSU came calling. First, as much as I hate UofM, I am extremely grateful for the season that they had last year because it likely bought Harbaugh another 10 years there. As for the other schools… would they even be interested? ND last year was in the market and I don’t even remember hearing about them even looking seriously in Campbell’s direction (but maybe that’s because they already had their guy). OSU can literally have anybody, so I’m not sure they’d settle for Campbell unless his resume greatly improves from where it currently is.

To me, PSU is the one that may provide the biggest test to Campbell’s commitment to ISU. Even then, I’m not necessarily sure what kind of hot seat Franklin is on.
 
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I understand that. But I think most people would agree up to this point OL hasn't been one of ISU's strengths even with Campbell & Manning's backgrounds.

IMO Campbell is a CEO, not a head coach who gets deeply engaged in position groups. He lets his coaches, coach. Just not sure Husker fans understand who Matt Campbell is.

He's more Kirk Ferentz than Lincoln Riley. He's a culture guy, not a glitz guy. A grinder. Probably what Nebraska needs, but maybe not what most people want.
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Don't you EVER associate Matt Campbell with that POS. He's way better than that!!! :jimlad:
 
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