NBA Draft 2014

Said it hurt the street cred a "little bit" I mean it can't help any. (and yes we will be completely fine)
I understand Kane and Melvin will probably end up somewhere.
But when recruited players see that Hoiberg had the Big12 player of the year, Tourney MVP and Newcomer of the year not get called....Its kind of a head scratcher.

How many of those 200 players 2nd round projected had stats and awards in one of the best leagues in the country like our guys? I think that is what people are getting frustrated about.


I like their chances as a free agent though.
we shall see :)


I look at it like........Hoiberg had two seniors that NBA scouts didn't draft, but coached them to the Big 12 POY, Tourney MVP, Newcomer of the year, and both first team all Big 12. Oh yeah, a run to the Sweet 16 without Niang. White, Babb, Clyburn, Garrett, and now Kane are getting NBA shots. Ejim probably will as well.

Imagine what Fred could do with legit lottery pick talent.

I think his cred is fine. :yes:
 
I think you should only be able to draft players that will be in the NBA or D-league net year. That stashing stuff is ******** and screws guys from over here who have worked their *** off at a high level of competition.
How so? Other than the rah rah of hearing your name called there are no doors closed to anyone because a team drafts a guy that is stashed in Europe for a few years. Better to go undrafted than get picked in the 2nd round. With no guaranteed contracts, it's better to get to pick your spot.
 
Exactly. Can't Cyclone fans just be disappointed that their guys didn't get drafted, whether expected or not? Good thing all these NBA experts popped on this morning to tell us about what was expected. I know about the NBA too, it doesn't mean that I'm not disappointed.

It isn't like we were expecting Ellerman to hear his name last night; Kane did have a shot at being drafted.

Just like good thing all the people without a clue jumped on to tell us how much of an injustice it was to not see Kane/Ejim drafted and how terrible every 2nd round PG/SF draft pick was since it was not Kane/Ejim. Newflash - the NBA GMs know more about scouting than CF.
 
How so? Other than the rah rah of hearing your name called there are no doors closed to anyone because a team drafts a guy that is stashed in Europe for a few years. Better to go undrafted than get picked in the 2nd round. With no guaranteed contracts, it's better to get to pick your spot.

Better yet, ditch the phoney collegiate amateurism. Pay college athletes something, let NBA teams draft, pay and stash players on college teams. Better talent in the college game, better quality talent arriving in the NBA.
 
How so? Other than the rah rah of hearing your name called there are no doors closed to anyone because a team drafts a guy that is stashed in Europe for a few years. Better to go undrafted than get picked in the 2nd round. With no guaranteed contracts, it's better to get to pick your spot.

Yeah...people keep saying this but I don't think it's true. Here's a link to the undrafted players who have played at least one game in the league, just change the year to see different years. There's a couple guys like Jeremy Lin and Wes Matthews who have become solid players but for the most part it's a lot of guys who never did anything, and there's no doubt that more second round picks stick in the league than undrafted guys.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_NBA_draft#Notable_undrafted_players
 
Yeah...people keep saying this but I don't think it's true. Here's a link to the undrafted players who have played at least one game in the league, just change the year to see different years. There's a couple guys like Jeremy Lin and Wes Matthews who have become solid players but for the most part it's a lot of guys who never did anything, and there's no doubt that more second round picks stick in the league than undrafted guys.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_NBA_draft#Notable_undrafted_players

Interesting that they use the term "notable undrafted players" when most of those names are a mystery by now.
 
Wow... This thread brings it.

I think it's pretty obvious why a guy like Marble gets drafted over a guy like Kane. First, it is pretty clear from the draft that the NBA respects the type of ball played in the B10 more so than the B12. Second, Marble was a damn good player now. Imagine how good he would have been at the collegiate level if he were Kane's age... I mean it really is a huge advantage to be that much older than the guys you're playing against. It's all about what a player can become at the NBA level, and it's clear at his age Marble has a greater upside.
 
Wow... This thread brings it.

I think it's pretty obvious why a guy like Marble gets drafted over a guy like Kane. First, it is pretty clear from the draft that the NBA respects the type of ball played in the B10 more so than the B12. Second, Marble was a damn good player now. Imagine how good he would have been at the collegiate level if he were Kane's age... I mean it really is a huge advantage to be that much older than the guys you're playing against. It's all about what a player can become at the NBA level, and it's clear at his age Marble has a greater upside.

I won't bother mincing words here. That's just stupid to say that they value B10 ball more than B12 ball, unless that's why the B10 follows every conference these past few years by a huge, vast difference in picks.

When he's on, Marble is a nice scorer. He can't do much else, he's not consistent, and he lacks heart. Congrats to him for tricking someone into a shot, but he's not a pro.
 
Paraprhasing Jalen Rose last night: it's a privilege, not a right to get to play in the NBA and get drafted. Lots of good players don't get drafted.

If the team's don't think a guy is good enough to justifying eating up limited cap space and roster spots, why should they be forced to take on a guaranteed contract or camp spot?


He also said something along the lines of "What about the guys I've been watching all year" when comparing guys like Ejim and Kane to some of the foreign players taken. They aren't picking the better prospects a lot of times. They are picking these guys so they don't have to pay anyone. It's a joke. If you want your name in the draft you should have to be here to play next season or in the summer league if you are drafted.
 
How so? Other than the rah rah of hearing your name called there are no doors closed to anyone because a team drafts a guy that is stashed in Europe for a few years. Better to go undrafted than get picked in the 2nd round. With no guaranteed contracts, it's better to get to pick your spot.

It doesn't matte rhow many times you guys use that catchy little number, it won't be true.
 
Wow... This thread brings it.

I think it's pretty obvious why a guy like Marble gets drafted over a guy like Kane. First, it is pretty clear from the draft that the NBA respects the type of ball played in the B10 more so than the B12. Second, Marble was a damn good player now. Imagine how good he would have been at the collegiate level if he were Kane's age... I mean it really is a huge advantage to be that much older than the guys you're playing against. It's all about what a player can become at the NBA level, and it's clear at his age Marble has a greater upside.

Well you certainly brought something to this thread.
The NBA respects the b10 so much that they drafted 3 players from the B12 before taking one from the b10.
 
He also said something along the lines of "What about the guys I've been watching all year" when comparing guys like Ejim and Kane to some of the foreign players taken. They aren't picking the better prospects a lot of times. They are picking these guys so they don't have to pay anyone. It's a joke. If you want your name in the draft you should have to be here to play next season or in the summer league if you are drafted.

They don't have to pay second round picks anyway. There's no guaranteed contracts for them, the number of jobs available isn't changing. If Ejim and Kane had been drafted and Marble passed over, no one would be on here calling for full scale changes to the way the NBA drafts. There's a lot of really, really good basketball players who don't make the league every year.
 
No foreign guys work hard. Got it.

I didn't say that. They were rolling some stats across there and they were dreadful. I get the whole ceiling thing but there was a guy picked at 21 who was said to be 4 years away from even being ready to play. Do you know how long 4 years is?
 
I didn't say that. They were rolling some stats across there and they were dreadful. I get the whole ceiling thing but there was a guy picked at 21 who was said to be 4 years away from even being ready to play. Do you know how long 4 years is?
I'm going out on a limb, but I'll say 1461 days, depending on how many leap years during the span.
 
They don't have to pay second round picks anyway. There's no guaranteed contracts for them, the number of jobs available isn't changing. If Ejim and Kane had been drafted and Marble passed over, no one would be on here calling for full scale changes to the way the NBA drafts. There's a lot of really, really good basketball players who don't make the league every year.

I would be. I think it's stupid. And if the second round is so useless, let's just make it one round and then let people go from there.
 
I won't bother mincing words here. That's just stupid to say that they value B10 ball more than B12 ball, unless that's why the B10 follows every conference these past few years by a huge, vast difference in picks.

When he's on, Marble is a nice scorer. He can't do much else, he's not consistent, and he lacks heart. Congrats to him for tricking someone into a shot, but he's not a pro.

What does that even mean? How do you measure that compared to other players?
 
He also said something along the lines of "What about the guys I've been watching all year" when comparing guys like Ejim and Kane to some of the foreign players taken. They aren't picking the better prospects a lot of times. They are picking these guys so they don't have to pay anyone. It's a joke. If you want your name in the draft you should have to be here to play next season or in the summer league if you are drafted.

Good luck with that. Make sure to keep us updated with progress reports on how far you get with it.