Yep and I like Harbaugh too. They go past annoying to me and are just different cats that make the sport interesting because they are just so wacky.
***Men's Final Four Thread***
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Clingan can block anything that isn’t trying to be dunked with authority. He has to be able to touch the top of the backboard.
I’m confused by the flagrant one fouls with contact to the face. Seems like every game I watched this year, it was an automatic flagrant one for any contact to the face. Incidental or not. I actually thought that was a rule change in men’s college basketball. They didn’t seem to call that at the end of the UCONN and Alabama game even after the review.
long as contact is deemed to occur from a “basketball move” it’s not a flagrant.
It’ll be interesting how they call fouls. Edey doesn’t have the footwork to stay with Clingan, but they seemed to be hesitant to call fouls tonight. Will they swallow their whistle when Edey makes contact on Clingan’s shot?
It definitely seems like there's been a shift in the last few weeks of calling less of that, and even when they'd otherwise be forced to call it they lean towards calling a cylinder violation instead.
Hurley is a great coach, but what an a-hole. Can’t stand him. Worse than Fran. Fran can get worse at times, but overall Hurley is WAY worse throughout the game.
So glad to have TJ.
So glad to have TJ.
From what I had seen this year until recently, every instance of contact to the face was minimum flagrant one. I actually thought that was a rule change. Glad that I’m wrong.
UConn in their half court offense is a breath of fresh air. Most times all 5 guys are moving & not pick & roll with 2-3 players & the other 3-2 standing there, nor dribble driving in the lane for a shot or to kick out for a 3. Combine this with their talent level & they are lethal.
I don't like 'the two best teams made it' narrative. Houston was easily one of the top 2 or 3 teams this year, but the injury bug hit (Tugler 1st in the regular season, then Shead in the tourney). Think Sampson winning Coach of the Year over Hurley justifies that to some degree, but as I watched NC State play I just wondered how different with Houston's suffocating defense the game would have been. Oh well - no SEC & no Big 10 for me. Go Huskies (blah, just threw up in my throat a little)
I don't like 'the two best teams made it' narrative. Houston was easily one of the top 2 or 3 teams this year, but the injury bug hit (Tugler 1st in the regular season, then Shead in the tourney). Think Sampson winning Coach of the Year over Hurley justifies that to some degree, but as I watched NC State play I just wondered how different with Houston's suffocating defense the game would have been. Oh well - no SEC & no Big 10 for me. Go Huskies (blah, just threw up in my throat a little)
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A great season a coming if the boys shoot that for the season.
How many of the 13 didn’t even reach the Final Four?
Examples (please verify) … several of these didn’t get out of the first weekend (I didn’t go back all the way):
2023 Alabama
2022 Gonzaga
2019 Duke
2018 Virginia
2017 Villanova
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2010 Kansas
My personal favorite this year was when Watson got elbowed so hard in the face by k-state that he got a concussion, and it was called a foul on Watson.
I still think we would have made the Final 4 in any other region this year.
Iowa State lost to #3 seed Illinois in Boston in the Sweet 16, not to UConn. ISU not making the Final Four this year had nothing to do with their region.
Agree to disagree. It's all about the matchups. The 2 teams I disliked our matchups with the most going into the tournament (before the brackets were even announced) were Illinois and UConn.
That's fair.
Iowa State lost to # 3 Illinois.
To win the West, they would have had to beat # 6 Clemson and #4 Alabama.
To win the South, they would have had to beat #11 N.C. State and # 4 Duke.
To win the Midwest, they would have had to beat #3 Creighton and #1 Purdue.
ISU lost to Illinois, not UConn. If Illinois was a bad match-up for ISU, most (if not all) of those other teams would have been too. IMO, Purdue, Duke and Alabama would have been tough for ISU in the Elite 8 (if ISU made it that far).
That being said, if ISU had made it to the Elite 8 and lost to UConn, I would agree with you. I just don't think a team that lost to Illinois @ Boston in the Sweet 16 didn't make the Final Four simply because of the region in which they played.
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Since we're doing thought experiment ... If we can imagine our Omaha bracket feeding into any of the other 3 regions, with all other details of bracket being identical (and relax the rules to allow being in South w/ Houston) ... here are the Sweet 16 paths:
SOUTH (Dallas):
(11) N.C. State
(4) Duke
MIDWEST (Detroit):
(3) Creighton
(1) Purdue
WEST (Los Angeles)
(6) Clemson
(4) Alabama
I'd be fairly confident ISU reaches Elite 8 in at South or West. In Midwest, Creighton might closer to 50-50, but still like our chances.
For Elite 8, I'd say Alabama's length + ability to drain 3's isn't our most favorable scenario. I wouldn't be scared of Duke ... Purdue, if we don't get into a big hole early, it'd be competitive.
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