Matt Campbell to Penn State??

I know coaches will do coach things but after just signing this class of kids I don't see Campbell leaving and leaving ISU and the kids in a lurch. CMC has shown time and again that he's not your typical coach. I can see him talking with Penn State because why wouldnt you, but he's not leaving. The amount of pressure and hate you get with a fanbase like Penn State would be incredible.

He'd take the kids with him ;)
 
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Steven (Blowhard) Smith, Ben Roethlisberger, and James Harrison all suggest that Mike Tomlin should split from the Steelers.
 
I know coaches will do coach things but after just signing this class of kids I don't see Campbell leaving and leaving ISU and the kids in a lurch. CMC has shown time and again that he's not your typical coach. I can see him talking with Penn State because why wouldnt you, but he's not leaving. The amount of pressure and hate you get with a fanbase like Penn State would be incredible.
I agree with your sentiment. But due to way college football works...there is never a good time to leave a job without "breaking" deals with team members/schools/boosters. A college football coach is always promising something to someone. It might just be a promise of an opportunity but it is still an offer. A job like PSU is open now...it won't be in April or May...if Matt Campbell dreams of being a coach at a school near where he grew up...this might be the only opportunity he ever has to fulfill that dream. I have no idea if that is his dream/desire...or if PSU even wants him. But it is very likely that this could be MC's one shot at getting that gig.
 
Steven (Blowhard) Smith, Ben Roethlisberger, and James Harrison all suggest that Mike Tomlin should split from the Steelers.
Totally believable.

He’d definitely be a splashier hire than Campbell, and maybe a better one?

While I’d guess the Steelers would be Campbell’s dream NFL job he wouldn’t get an interview, would he?
 
But he also just lost out on the opportunity to recruit higher ranked kids to PSU this cycle.
That was lost regardless of who was hired for the early signing period. Even if things went smoothly with BYU.

When a coach leaves a mini portal period opens up so anyone can move their recruiting class to a new school very easily.

That being said I don’t see PSU grabbing him
 
Penn State is closer to falling into the rhythm of churning through coaches who do not live up to sky high expectations, than they are of allowing anyone to establish an actual culture and program. I suspect whoever is hired at Penn State will be gone in 3 years.
Why? They have legit never fired a coach before Franklin and he was there for a decade. That’s a massive leap. This isn’t LSU or some SEC chaos. Penn state is kinda like the Steelers where it’s an extremely stable job. Their fan base isn’t demanding nattys, just that they occasionally win a big game.
 
Penn State is closer to falling into the rhythm of churning through coaches who do not live up to sky high expectations, than they are of allowing anyone to establish an actual culture and program. I suspect whoever is hired at Penn State will be gone in 3 years.
Honestly that’s the fate I’m hoping to see Iowa fall into as well.
 
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Those are all true.

However, at Penn State you can get fired 5 games removed from the playoff semifinal. He has a lifetime contract at ISU and has never won the conference championship game, let alone advance in the playoffs.
Exactly this. To me, the question on the Penn State job comes down to actual resources versus expectations. Penn State is an upper tier job. Bit I would say their fans think they are just the right coaching hire away from Ohio State or Alabama level results.

If you believe that to be true, then it is a great job. But if you believe that the ceiling at Penn State is below that, then you have a similar situation to something like Nebraska where you are setup to fail because the ceiling at the program can't ever meet fan expectations and thus you get sacked 6 games after a playoff run. I'm inclined to believe that PSU is in this setup to fail category, where it just isn't quite setup to build a true dynasty type run.
 
Why? They have legit never fired a coach before Franklin and he was there for a decade. That’s a massive leap. This isn’t LSU or some SEC chaos. Penn state is kinda like the Steelers where it’s an extremely stable job. Their fan base isn’t demanding nattys, just that they occasionally win a big game.

Those two places are insane.

I moved to Pittsburgh as a teenage college freshman during Cower’s 2nd season.

Mike Tomlin is the only coach the Stillers have hired since then…and I’m closing in on retirement.
 
Why? They have legit never fired a coach before Franklin and he was there for a decade. That’s a massive leap. This isn’t LSU or some SEC chaos. Penn state is kinda like the Steelers where it’s an extremely stable job. Their fan base isn’t demanding nattys, just that they occasionally win a big game.
The past is not an accurate indicator of future behavior in the current landscape of college athletics. They have wild expectations, and the resources to match. In in their minds, they feel it is a birthright to win the national championship. In this microwave environment, that combination will lead to hasty decisions.
 
Why? They have legit never fired a coach before Franklin and he was there for a decade. That’s a massive leap. This isn’t LSU or some SEC chaos. Penn state is kinda like the Steelers where it’s an extremely stable job. Their fan base isn’t demanding nattys, just that they occasionally win a big game.

Is that last part true?

Penn State has won NCs in the past, and is a program that is certainly capable of it.

If their expectations are Saban at Alabama where they were close to winning it all every single year, that’s a little out of whack. But I wouldn’t fault a PSU fan for expecting them to be in the NC conversation every so often.
 
The past is not an accurate indicator of future behavior in the current landscape of college athletics. They have wild expectations, and the resources to match. In in their minds, they feel it is a birthright to win the national championship. In this microwave environment, that combination will lead to hasty decisions.

They gave Paterno 22 years to win a title.

Franklin got 11.

Clearly there is an established pattern here.

Edit: Don’t check my math.
 
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Why? They have legit never fired a coach before Franklin and he was there for a decade. That’s a massive leap. This isn’t LSU or some SEC chaos. Penn state is kinda like the Steelers where it’s an extremely stable job. Their fan base isn’t demanding nattys, just that they occasionally win a big game.
They just fired a coach mid-season after he took them to the college playoffs. This landscape of college football and NIL/Donations has changed and coaches at schools like Penn St are obviously on shorter leashes or else they would have at least waited until the end of the season to fie him.
 

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