Matt Campbell sounds off on NCAA

[Gonzo]

Allows coaches to evaluate talent and give some pointers to developing kids. Allows kids to show their skills in hopes of getting an "in" with a school and maybe a future scholarship offer. Relationships form. Schools from the North may still never get the 5*, top 10 in the nation at their position kids being recruited by Alabama, Georgia, Texas, LSU, FSU, etc. But it exposes the lower rated (and possibly underrated) kids to programs willing to give them a full scholarship for school, and lets coaches find some of the "diamonds in the rough' who otherwise may not get D1 looks.

Key point. Lots of kids who because of this may get to go to college because a MAC-level program offers, and who otherwise wouldn't be able to attend college. There's already been lots of tweets from current players talking about how they wouldn't be at their school, or in college at all, if not for these types of camps. Of course there's an agenda for the programs and coaches who benefit from these camps. But it's also about expanding opportunities for kids. I'd love to hear the NCAA offer a simple, rationale answer to the question of: Why?

It's killing opportunities for future student-athletes.

 

[BoxsterCy]

The P5 conferences voted it through so it is more of an issue with them and the power schools then the NCAA (and I hate the NCAA). The P5's and the NCAA are both evil entities that don't give two ***** about the 2nd tier schools or student athletes while they make millions and pay their coaches millions.

.....conferences that voted against satellite camps included the ACC, Big 12, SEC, Pac-12, Mountain West Conference and Sun Belt, while the Big Ten, AAC, C-USA and MAC voted in favor of them.

The P5's votes count for 2 and the others count for one so it was soundly crushed, not by the NCAA, but the four P5's that pushed it.

 

[BikeSkiClone]

Kinda surprised the MWC voted against the camps. Pac 12? No way are California & Arizona schools letting the northern schools + Utah and Colorado into their areas. Big 12? Same for the Oklahoma and Texas schools (over 1/2 of the conference).

Big Ten schools are "northern" across the board, AAC, C-USA, and MAC are non-P5 so that's obvious. SEC and ACC are obvious "against" votes. I'd like to see a school-by-school vote of the P5 teams if it was done. Almost guarantee 90% of schools north of the Mason-Dixon line would vote for these camps.

 

[clonetone]

Just think if the Big 12 had Cincinnati and UConn right now, the conference probably would have cast its vote against the ban instead of for it. I'm assuming the two Kansas schools, West Virginia, and Iowa State want these camps while the OK and TX schools oppose them.

 

[dualthreat]

Just think if the Big 12 had Cincinnati and UConn right now, the conference probably would have cast its vote against the ban instead of for it. I'm assuming the two Kansas schools, West Virginia, and Iowa State want these camps while the OK and TX schools oppose them.

9 schools in the big 12 voted against the ban. Texas voted to ban. Thus, the big 12 agreed they should be banned.

 

[nhclone]

Is one of these words similar in spelling to Puntbags? If so, I approve of this message.

Auntbags doesn't seem like it would need to be sensored

 

[demoncore1031]

The sad part is that not one single person on the entire planet is surprised by this ruling. Eat a bag of ***** NCAA.

 

[Tre4ISU]

The sad part is that not one single person on the entire planet is surprised by this ruling. Eat a bag of ***** NCAA.

The NCAA didn't make this rule on their own. It was voted this way by the conferences.

That does, however, raise the the question as to why they aren't stepping in because this clearly helps the SA in no way. It can only hurt them.

 

[IAStubborn]

Loved this answer today by Coach.

http://cyclonefanatic.com/football/news/matt-campbell-sounds-off-on-ncaa-satellite-camp-ruling/

Too much parity in football. Need to return order.

 

[IAStubborn]

Too much parity in football. Need to return order.

Also, we need to be angry at the big 12 and Pacific 12 for saying **** u to the northern schools in their conferences. Had those 2 conferences voted the other way it would have been a 9-6 vote against the ban (p5 conference votes worth 2)

 

[browns4cy]

What would it take to discuss infranchise from the ncaa? What kind of punishment is put forth for breaking the rules. Think of how many kids have to walk on at the local university even though if they could have been exposed at a satellite camp and gotten a scholarship at a school up north?

 

[HFCS]

What is the rational? I mean the actual stated rational- not the true "protect the sec" rational?

A QB's Dad can admittedly accept a $250,000 check for his son to play at Auburn, but a school in the north can't hold a camp in the state of Alabama.

Sounds like the NCAA is staying consistent with their core values.

Quarter of a million bucks to a pro QB playing college football? Sure. Hold a camp out of state...NO WAY.

 

[BadBoi]

A QB's Dad can admittedly accept a $250,000 check for his son to play at Auburn, but a school in the north can't hold a camp in the state of Alabama.

Sounds like the NCAA is staying consistent with their core values.

Quarter of a million bucks to a pro QB playing college football? Sure. Hold a camp out of state...NO WAY.

I agree with everything you said. However, let's put the blame on our archaic conference, who have routinely and purposely suppressed us as a bottomfeeder.

The NCAA is crooked and corrupt. The Big 12 isn't any better. Our lack of bargaining power hinders the program from seeking better avenues.

 

[cyrocksmypants]

Here's the email I just sent to the NCAA PR rep. I'm sure it'll rock their world.


Ms. Hosick,

I'd just like to congratulate you and the rest of the NCAA for sticking to your guns on the recent ruling that bans satellite camps for college football programs.

Like you, I agree that prospective student athletes who may reside in certain states and have limited financial resources shouldn't be able to be exposed and present their talents to schools outside of their immediate geographic location. Screw them. If a kid from Florida is really really interested in playing at Michigan but is dirt poor and could never in a million years afford a trip up north to attend Michigan's camp, so be it. Not our problem. Kid needs to suck it up and deal with the socioeconomic hand they've been dealt. Especially if it puts coaches in certain conferences at a competitive disadvantage. I mean, seriously. It's not like the NCAA should be expected to act in the best interest of its future student-athletes. Duh. If those future student-athletes can't afford the plane tickets, gas, hotels, food, camp registration fees, etc. that it takes to travel 1,000 miles to attend the camp of a school they're interested in, that's what they deserve. Should've picked parents in a higher tax bracket.

Again, kudos to you and the NCAA for putting your collective foot on the throat of the economically disadvantaged and teaching them a lesson in how today's world really works. Keep it up.

For the love of God, please tell me you actually sent this. I'll even accept Football Season Gonzo with open arms if you actually sent this.

 

[Cycsk]

Way to go after them Coach Campbell! Seems crazy in a global world that you are restricted to a campus for holding events. I'm on my way to Wash DC and just saw a University of California campus near my hotel. Big time football shouldn't be localized when the players, fans, market and even schools themselves are national.

 

[Cloneon]

Wow. Found an interesting bug while trying to post this. I cancelled the post, closed the tab, and then decided to reopen the tab. The 'entire' web page was shown in the place of the quote instead of 'just' the quote. That oughta get the attention of the developers.

That said, it would appear a fair compromise would be to allow any coach to 'scout' the camps open to the public and that, publicly, their attendance would have to be availed to any attendee. But, heck, that flies in the face of common sense. So, the NCAA, by proxy could never understand it.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

Easy answer. Money, power, influence, control. Thanks Texas.

 

[CyInDFW]

Don't think so. Here's part of the NCAA ruling:

"Additionally, FBS coaches and noncoaching staff members with responsibilities specific to football may be employed only at their school’s camps or clinics. This rule change is effective immediately."

They're covering all their bases. Pretty ****** stuff for the student-athletes. But if anyone's interested, here's some NCAA contact info to voice thoughts:

Media Contact
Michelle Brutlag Hosick
Associate Director of Public and Media Relations
NCAA
[email protected]

It actually says nothing in there about "donating" their time. Another site put out the question of camps that are for charity that the ncaa has backed for years. Does the ncaa have a leg to stand on if the coaches aren't being paid was the question. If all proceeds from incoming monies was going to a specific charity, would it be ok?...things like that.

 

[CyInDFW]

The P5 conferences voted it through so it is more of an issue with them and the power schools then the NCAA (and I hate the NCAA). The P5's and the NCAA are both evil entities that don't give two ***** about the 2nd tier schools or student athletes while they make millions and pay their coaches millions.



The P5's votes count for 2 and the others count for one so it was soundly crushed, not by the NCAA, but the four P5's that pushed it.

Of course the P5 conferences crushed it. The ACC and SEC were givens. The Big 12 probably had all the Texas schools and the Oklahoma duo vote against it, the pac whatever had the California, AZ and probably UW vote against the camps. None of the power schools in those conferences want the acc, sec or big 10 in their areas either.

 

[SplitIdentity]

Also, we need to be angry at the big 12 and Pacific 12 for saying **** u to the northern schools in their conferences. Had those 2 conferences voted the other way it would have been a 9-6 vote against the ban (p5 conference votes worth 2)

I ran the numbers, and that is some solid math.