Marvel Cinematic Universe

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For those who have seen it.. Venom: Thumbs up or Thumbs Down

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  1. RayShimley

    RayShimley Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, by my count we saw: Cap, Iron Man, War Machine, Bucky, Falcon, Scarlet Witch, Hawkeye, Black Widow, and Black Panther. That's quite the crew and still only a fraction of the heroes already confirmed in the movie! Really excited for the first full length trailer.
     
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    I'm not a DC guy but Superman will always be A-list.
     
  3. Triggermv

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    True story. Nobody probably is as iconic as Superman and that likely won't go away whether any of us like him or not.
     
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    I am betting no trailer will except maybe the last one and it will be a fraction of a second. The spiderman in this movie is super young (Guessing highschool kid) if I remember right.
     
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    It amazes me that the Casting for all these heroes has been so spot on. Have they missed yet? It blows me away.
     
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    Lucas is disgusted with the new StarWars/Disney direction and is disavowing future partnership with them.
     
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    Triggermv Well-Known Member

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    Interesting, I tend to lean the opposite direction on that one. That franchise really needed to get passed along out of his hands for safe keeping. To me, the positive/negative future direction of this franchise should be figured out relatively quickly based on how they do with this next movie, so we should find out soon enough.
     
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    I agree. Lucas was out of touch.
     
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    Is Wesley's statement even true, though? Here's a story from the last week. Disgusted isn't a term I would use to describe him.

    http://www.denofgeek.us/movies/star-wars/250691/star-wars-the-force-awakens-george-lucas-on-why-disney-didnt-use-his-ideas
     
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    Triggermv Well-Known Member

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    For the most part, I agree (minus Edward Norton). I also think they will hit a home run with the new high school spidey too with the Tom Holland casting. If you have no clue who he is or aren't convince, my guess is you'll feel better after watching a bunch of his Instagram stunt videos:

    http://www.businessinsider.com/tom-holland-spider-man-stunt-videos-on-instagram-2015-6

    My guess is Tom will be doing a fair share of his own stunts.
     
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    I wouldn't say they've missed yet, but there are a few characters that haven't been fleshed out enough to know either way (Scarlet Witch, Vision). As for the heavy hitters (plus Mackie and Rudd), definitely all big hits outside of Norton.
     
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    #73 Triggermv, Nov 25, 2015
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    Good call, neither of those two are fleshed out, so we'll see. Overall, from just a pure casting perspective, I like the casting of Vision, but am still not sold on Elizabeth Olsen as Scarlet Witch. Who knows though. Once or if her character gets fleshed out, I may change my mind, but maybe not either. Again, not a heavy hitter though so I'll live either way.

    Little known tidbit too, they were originally going to cast Emily Blunt for Black Widow, but due to scheduling issues I think, went with Scarlett Johansson. So, while I do like Scarlett in the role, I still think Emily would have been even better.
     
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    #74 Triggermv, Dec 21, 2015
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    Few new things on this front for me:

    -Finally got to see Star Wars last night (Sunday @ 9:30 pm) in 3D. At my showing, no Civil War trailer, no Star Trek trailer, no X-Men Apocalypse trailer, no Batman vs Superman Trailer. Only one I got was the new Independence Day one with a few other crap ones. Seriously, what the frack????? Did they change the trailers after the first few days or was it because I saw it in 3D? Granted, I've already seen most of those, but was hoping to see them on big screen before Star Wars and was expecting that as part of the experience.

    -Still working my way through Jessica Jones (I know, I know, I'm slow). Going about 1/day and started late (had to finish my Arrow season I've been working through first). Made it through 10 episodes so far. I'll save my full thoughts for later, but wow, loving it so far. Maybe like the character of Daredevil better overall, but the character based-thriller story of Jessica Jones is amazing. Also, Kilgrave already gets a standing ovation. Maybe my favorite villain in the MCU yet... we'll see once it is all over. He is what makes Jessica Jones tip the scales over Daredevil so far. Can't wait for finale.

    -No Agents of Shield Season 3 update for me yet because I haven't watched an episode. I absolutely refuse to watch ANYTHING week to week, so I'm building them up on DVR to hammer through and catch up right before Civil War since I imagine the storylines will overlap to some extent.

    -Can't wait for Agent Carter season 2

    -Looking forward to this Captain America documentary to be shown on ABC:

    http://www.comicbookmovie.com/comics/marvel_comics/news/?a=129117

    All of the ABC documentaries have been great and I expect no different from this one.
     
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    For those of you wondering why we haven't seen another Hulk solo movie, this interview sheds some light on the topic:

    http://www.comicbookmovie.com/hulk/news/?a=129204

    Personally, I don't have any interest in seeing another Hulk solo outing mainly because I'm not a super big CGI fan, much less one where the main character is 100% CGI. Nevertheless, I love Mark Ruffalo in the role and love seeing him in ensemble roles (Avengers movies) or part of a team-up like he will be in the upcoming Thor Ragnorak.
     
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    #76 Triggermv, Dec 24, 2015
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    So, I finally finished up Jessica Jones and loved it a lot. All said and done, it is what it is, which is a character-driven psychological thriller and was a good one at that. With that said, I can definitely see why some people probably like it and some not so much. If someone is looking for a superhero show, it really isn't one as it is definitely more heavy on the character driven drama and slim on the epic hero action sequences. I also wasn't super impressed with the few action sequences there were, which should be somewhat expected as none of the heroes are particularly well-verse combat specialists, but rather rely mainly on their powers to carry them to victory. My hope is that they all develop a few more skills by the time the Defenders comes out.

    Anyway, while I like Jessica Jones and thought Krysten Ritter did good and better than I expected in the role, she still isn't my favorite hero or even my favorite character in the show. In fact, what made the show so great was the character of Kilgrave. If Marvel gets hammered for their history of poor underdeveloped villains, it isn't because of Kilgrave. David Tennant was awesome in the role and truly drove the show. I slightly compare it to the Dark Knight movie in the way that Batman isn't what makes that movie so epic, but rather Heath Ledger as the Joker. While the Marvel movie side still possesses most the great heroes, Netflix is really starting to make a name in developing great villains. Their longer episode format is also probably the better format to do that in.

    My biggest gripe of the show was probably that they went a little too stand-aloneish. Connections to the greater MCU were slim and very faint. Part of what makes the MCU so great is the shared universe, the crossovers, and each thing out there affecting all the others. So, while there were a few ties, mostly to Daredevil, there weren't enough in my mind. I'll refrain in listing any of them out to avoid any spoilers for those who haven't seen it yet.
     
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    I liked Jessica Jones as well, especially the Kilgrave villain. I couldn't help but think the show would've been better with half as many episodes though. It really started to drag after episode 6 or so.

    Still thought Daredevil was better as a complete series and really looking forward to Season 2.

    To your last point, there was an article a while back that bascially said the MCU Netflix universe is ran by a different group than the MCU Movie + AoS universe (the Whedon-verse I guess). So whereas they exist in the same world, with the current structure there is no planned overlap with the movies and the Netflix series (so no Iron Fist, Daredevil, JJ, Luke Cage, in Civil War or the Infinity Wars, unfortunately).
     
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    Just watched Ant Man and I'd have to classify it as one of the more overrated movies I've ever watched.
     
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    #79 Triggermv, Dec 24, 2015
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    I totally agree that Jessica Jones could have been probably about 3 episodes shorter in my mind. I thought it started dragging at about the same point. Easily could have cut some of the Kilgrave support group crap and a few other things. Overall, I just found her weird neighbor lady super annoying and wish she wasn't even in it. As for better than Daredevil, I was at one time leaning towards JJ, but in the end, I'm going to agree that Daredevil was a little better.

    Lastly, you talked about the Marvel in-house workings for crossovers and while you are somewhat right, I think you are bit off. Of everything I've read, the structure of Marvel is super complicated and changed some too over time. The way I've read is that there is two separate entities - Marvel Studios (all the movies) and Marvel Television (all the TV including Netflix and ABC series). Kevin Feige heads Marvel Studios and Jeff Loeb heads Marvel Television, and prior to this year, while they were two different divisions, they both reported to the head of Marvel (Perlmutter is head) who then reported to the head of Disney (Disney owns Marvel). Well, it isn't secret that none of the 3 guys really get along even though they are all supposed to coordinate together. Feige has always somewhat looked to Marvel Television as a nussance and doesn't like letting them impact his decisions for his movies nor has he ever really cared for Perlmutter for an array of different reasons. Anyway, just recently, due to Feige's pull, he got the org chart to shift where Marvel Studios (Feige) now reports directly to the head of Disney instead of Marvel even though Marvel Television still reports to Permutter (Marvel). Since this is so recent, it is tough to tell the true effect. Maybe it will help coordination between the two sides and maybe not. All said and done, there has always has been and always will be tension and a rivalry between the two which makes a ton of crossovers more difficult. In general, the TV side wants more crossovers than the movie side is willing to allow.
     
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    Interesting take. I definitely don't consider it my favorite movie, but I still found it fun and entertaining. All said and done, my mind might be a bit shifted around on it since I came in with such low expectations to it and walked out pleasantly surprised. I literally expected it to be garbage, so anything better than garbage made me smile :) and I was smiling.
     

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