Let’s talk Jackrabbits

[Cyballzz]

How was the MEAC in 2002 and how many Q1's had Hampton beaten?

That Hampton team in 2001 was on a heater the last month and half (and was actually pretty good the following year). We on the other hand were in a death spiral and headed to Boise fresh off a 49 point "effort" against Baylor. You want to talk about a perfect storm of suck? That was it.

Lets not act like all situations are created equal. Could we lose? Of course; but this team isn't 2001.

 

[Letterkenny]

Wut?

ISU was up for it but didn't have to do much outside of their norm.

Our "normal" game would have won. We blew them out. That was far above our "normal". It was one of the best games we played this year.

 

[Sigmapolis]

Zeko Mayo is by far their leading scorer and has taken 154 more shots than their 2nd place guy, so I fully expect him to be wearing a Keshon Gilbert suit all night.

Keshon has quite the collection of skinsuits from the opposing team's best SG at this point.

Forward Luke Appel

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You boys like Mexico?

 

[madguy30]

That Hampton team in 2001 was on a heater the last month and half (and was actually pretty good the following year). We on the other hand were in a death spiral and headed to Boise fresh off a 49 point "effort" against Baylor. You want to talk about a perfect storm of suck? That was it.

Lets not act like all situations are created equal. Could we lose? Of course; but this team isn't 2001.

Repeating but as the story goes when TJ is telling the players off in a in alcoholic infused rage the night before we can start to compare.

That said, that evening along with several 15/2 upsets since is/are fair reason to not just assume all will go accordingly.

This is a fun but very harsh annual sports week.

 

[Kinch]

That Hampton team in 2001 was on a heater the last month and half (and was actually pretty good the following year). We on the other hand were in a death spiral and headed to Boise fresh off a 49 point "effort" against Baylor. You want to talk about a perfect storm of suck? That was it.

Lets not act like all situations are created equal. Could we lose? Of course; but this team isn't 2001.

The other thing is the crowd was behind Hampton in Boise. Unless South Dakota State buys much more tickets than Iowa State, that’s not going to be the case. Like you said, the next year they also did well and lost as a No. 15 seed to UCONN by 11 points. The guy who hit the game winner against us played professionally in Europe for a few years.

 

[cyclonespiker33]

Our "normal" game would have won. We blew them out. That was far above our "normal". It was one of the best games we played this year.

The three games in KC were all better. Add beating #2 Houston in January, and wins at TCU, at Texas, at Cinncy, and at UCF. Definitely not top 5 best games.

 

[madguy30]

Our "normal" game would have won. We blew them out. That was far above our "normal". It was one of the best games we played this year.

ISU's normal game beats them by 20.

Imo at least 10 B12 wins took better performances and then this weekend was the top 3.

 

[Kinch]

If this was Iowa a few years ago when they were a number 2 seed and all they had to do to get to the elite 8 was beat South Dakota State, Drake and Illinois, we would have shaken our heads in disbelief and moaned about what an easy path they had. Of course, Fran wouldn’t have beat Drake and we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

 

[Kinch]

The last team to repeat as champions was Florida 17 years ago. Prior to UCONN, the last two champions (Baylor and Kansas) lost the next year in the second round. So the committee might have done us a favor.

 

[danvillecyclone]

The last team to repeat as champions was Florida 17 years ago. Prior to UCONN, the last two champions (Baylor and Kansas) lost the next year in the second round. So the committee might have done us a favor.

Actually, the last 6 defending Champions haven’t made it out of the first weekend. Including 3 number 1 seeds.

 

[danvillecyclone]

 

[danvillecyclone]

As mentioned above, they can shoot the ball pretty well and don't turn it over a ton. But they don't do a lot else well, including offensive rebounding, forcing turnovers or getting to the line.

They don't shoot a ton of 3s, but they've made at least 7 in each of their last 13 games. However, they've given up at least 7 in every game this year except 1 (a non-conf win against Southern Miss). We should be able to get some good looks outside.

They played one team with a defense anywhere close to ours, in a neutral site game agianst UCF which they lost by only 3. They lost by 23 in a road game at KSU, but those are the only decent teams they played all season.

They turned the ball over a season high 16 times against UCF. That should be the target number (> 16 TOs). I don't expect them to be able to handle our pressure.

South Dakota State turns it over a fair amount. 118th at 11.2 TO’s per game. 380 total.

UCF avg 14 opponents TO’s
ISU avg 18 opponents TO’s

If they gave UCF 16, we should get 20.

 

[drmwevr08]

Meh, we basically have offensive and defensive coordinators in our assistants, and have adjusted yearly to our talent. Knowing TJ at SDSU or UNLV wouldn't help a ton IMO

Certainly not anymore than watching 30 games this year could tell them.

 

[SolarGarlic]

There’s been plenty of 1/16, 2/15 etc type games that will be close at half but the higher seed ultimately wins by a comfortable margin. That’s highly plausible with this kind of matchup; I’m just not looking forward to people coming unglued when the first few minutes doesn’t go to plan.

If we're leading by 8 at half, our fans will be freaking out. Even if it's essentially on pace to cover the spread.

 

[Letterkenny]

ISU's normal game beats them by 20.

Imo at least 10 B12 wins took better performances and then this weekend was the top 3.

The point spread would not be 20. It would probably be around 10-12 at most. Iowa is basically identical to KState in the computers. We beat them by 25 and it took a run for them just to make it that close. I'll give you this weekend's games. The Kstate tournament game was on par with the Iowa home game. Baylor and obviously Houston were better.

 

[HFCS]

That Hampton team in 2001 was on a heater the last month and half (and was actually pretty good the following year). We on the other hand were in a death spiral and headed to Boise fresh off a 49 point "effort" against Baylor. You want to talk about a perfect storm of suck? That was it.

Lets not act like all situations are created equal. Could we lose? Of course; but this team isn't 2001.

Yeah, there is absolutely no comparison between this team ending the year and 2001 team ending the year.

This team looks a lot more like 2000 than 2001.

 

[HFCS]

If we're leading by 8 at half, our fans will be freaking out. Even if it's essentially on pace to cover the spread.

A lot of this is because we're usually 4-10 seed range...and then looking at the bracket and even realizing the 1 and 2 seeds can have really tough games in round of 32. I think we tend to think the 1 and 2 seeds all get a cakewalk because we've only been a 2 a handful of times and never a 1 (even though we earned a 1 once, maybe twice).

The unusual and I think unfair thing is low seeds getting almost home locations. We all know in a million years ISU would not get to play in Omaha or Des Moines if we were a 10 seed (or 15 seed like SDSU although that's impossible for a Big 12 team). If it's that way for some rabid fan bases, it needs to be that way for 100% of all teams. Get a top 4 seed or get shipped out...otherwise start putting KU in Topeka in a down 7 seed year, ISU in DesMoines as a 10 seed, UNC in Greensboro as an 8 seed.

 

[h-man64]

But it’s just a little bunny rabbit!

That rabbit is dynamite.

 

[Cyclonepride]

A lot of this is because we're usually 4-10 seed range...and then looking at the bracket and even realizing the 1 and 2 seeds can have really tough games in round of 32. I think we tend to think the 1 and 2 seeds all get a cakewalk because we've only been a 2 a handful of times and never a 1 (even though we earned a 1 once, maybe twice).

The unusual and I think unfair thing is low seeds getting almost home locations. We all know in a million years ISU would not get to play in Omaha or Des Moines if we were a 10 seed (or 15 seed like SDSU although that's impossible for a Big 12 team). If it's that way for some rabid fan bases, it needs to be that way for 100% of all teams. Get a top 4 seed or get shipped out...otherwise start putting KU in Topeka in a down 7 seed year, ISU in DesMoines as a 10 seed, UNC in Greensboro as an 8 seed.

Yeah, I took a look at the 1 and 2 seed matchups in the first and second round, and felt a lot better about ours.

 

[Cyched]

Yeah, I took a look at the 1 and 2 seed matchups in the first and second round, and felt a lot better about ours.

As cool as a 1 seed would’ve been, there are some *tough* 8/9 matchups out there.

We have side stories that most of the basketball world doesn’t know, but Drake and SDSU are mid majors and Wazzu isn’t unbeatable. Our coaches are scouting all 3 teams this week.