Lanning?
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Re: How bad is Lanning?
Looking at you Todd Sturdy. You are the passing coord. Get these guys trained now. No more dwaddling. Get the guys ready for next year at this point.
Lanning averaged 2.8 ypc for 17 yards and SR averaged 2.2 ypc for 11 yards.
Lanning was 5 for 9 for 41 yards and one sack.
SR was 10-21 for 139 yards and 3 picks and one sack.
I usually consider a pick worth 40 yards of loss so SR was almost a negative. Looks like Joel had the better day.
Looking at you Todd Sturdy. You are the passing coord. Get these guys trained now. No more dwaddling. Get the guys ready for next year at this point.
Lanning averaged 2.8 ypc for 17 yards and SR averaged 2.2 ypc for 11 yards.
Lanning was 5 for 9 for 41 yards and one sack.
SR was 10-21 for 139 yards and 3 picks and one sack.
I usually consider a pick worth 40 yards of loss so SR was almost a negative. Looks like Joel had the better day.
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Re: How bad is Lanning?
First you have to be accurate with your throws and not throw flutter balls.
First you have to be accurate with your throws and not throw flutter balls.
If I remember correctly during his recruitment he grew up an Iowa fan and wanted an offer badly from them but they had no interest in him whatsoever. Maybe there was a reason for their lack of interest.
Re: How bad is Lanning?
And this was against one of the worst defenses in all of college football. God help us on Saturday....
And this was against one of the worst defenses in all of college football. God help us on Saturday....
Re: How bad is Lanning?
Watching SR throw Saturday made fans nervous because he was always off target and behind. It was like his computer was slow.
I've heard some of the same about Lanning and I still think SR is better, even though he played poorly last week.
I'm less concerned about our QB and more concerned about our defense (who just gave up a school record for yards) with TCU and Baylor coming up the next two weeks.
I'm less concerned about our QB and more concerned about our defense (who just gave up a school record for yards) with TCU and Baylor coming up the next two weeks.
Lanning threw in garbage time against a bad Texas Tech defense, but I thought he threw the ball quite well. Got rid of it quick, had good spin on the ball, and was accurate. WR's dropped two of his passes as well.
I talked to someone within the program last year who told me if you put all the QB's together and had them runs drills for other college coaches, every college coach would take Lanning. Problem was what others have said, and that he doesn't have a clear grasp of what they want to do on offense. At this point though, I say you have to give him a shot to see what he can/can't do. I don't know if he is better than Sam, I just know what Sam is not. To be fair to Sam, he didn't coach the defense last week.
I talked to someone within the program last year who told me if you put all the QB's together and had them runs drills for other college coaches, every college coach would take Lanning. Problem was what others have said, and that he doesn't have a clear grasp of what they want to do on offense. At this point though, I say you have to give him a shot to see what he can/can't do. I don't know if he is better than Sam, I just know what Sam is not. To be fair to Sam, he didn't coach the defense last week.
SR first throw pretty much shot the feet out from under the defense. When the game was 10-0, it was pretty much over.
honestly after the next two bye weeks it doesn't matter who is better. It'll be time to find out what you have in Lanning and start preparing for next year.
We marched right back down and scored to make it 10-7. It was a bad start, but the game was far from over.
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I haven't seen SR excelling at any of these either... and the bottom line is they don't matter if you can't throw a simple 5-yard out, slant pass, in route or corner route within 5 yards of the WR. Better accuracy is our most pressing issue at QB.
I haven't seen SR excelling at any of these either... and the bottom line is they don't matter if you can't throw a simple 5-yard out, slant pass, in route or corner route within 5 yards of the WR. Better accuracy is our most pressing issue at QB.
I have watched a lot of games on cyclone TV. When we have been successful our qb makes the easier throws very consistently. SR does not do this. Overthrowing your receiver is a pick waiting to happen (obviously).
We need to make the basic plays, hit the receivers in stride on the short routes, and ever once in a while hit a long pass. SR does hit a nice pass occasionally but is too inconsistent. Meyer, Arnaud, Rosenfels, Wallace were very good at this. Sam and Grant have their days but we need an average to above average qb every game and what we are getting is average to below average.
Maybe we do not have that guy in our program. Maybe Darius Lee Campbell should start taking snaps again. Starcevich? I don't know but we need better qb ing. Punts are better than picks.
We need to make the basic plays, hit the receivers in stride on the short routes, and ever once in a while hit a long pass. SR does hit a nice pass occasionally but is too inconsistent. Meyer, Arnaud, Rosenfels, Wallace were very good at this. Sam and Grant have their days but we need an average to above average qb every game and what we are getting is average to below average.
Maybe we do not have that guy in our program. Maybe Darius Lee Campbell should start taking snaps again. Starcevich? I don't know but we need better qb ing. Punts are better than picks.
I'm one of the biggest defenders of Sam out there but there are just way too many things he's not doing well. He's inaccurate in the screen game which cost us about 50 yards Saturday and now he's making every throw really difficult to catch. If I'm a team on our schedule, and I watched Lanning, I want ISU to start SR. I don't want to deal with the guy who make throws from one has to the opposite side of the field and put them on the money. Some of those throws were pretty impressive. At this point, I don't care if you're limited in terms of playbook. Keep using motion and option football to keep people honest and take some shots here and there. Lanning adds to your running game, which, if you win games will be the cause, and I just don't think our passing game is important right now with Sam in. It's not like he's making these quick, clean read and tough throws because of his mental state.
I do too. With Steele our record might not be much better due to bonehead fumbles and interceptions, but we likely would be scoring more than 40 points a game and we would be fun to watch.
I agree, we also out of half-time came back with a little more fire, with holding them to 3 and out. and driving deep.... The FG seemed like a let down to the team. 38-24 and that was the closet it got after that....
